my call to order the
tuesday march 8th meeting the bexley
city council
uh it's good to see everybody here again
tonight
it's been kind of a
emotional week either maybe emotional
two weeks with the
crisis in uh ukraine i think
um
so that's sort of
on my mind as we meet here tonight and
see each other
the images these last weeks of the uh
president zielinski and the fighters of
ukraine defending their city
and uh i guess for me even uh
strikes a little deeper the images of
the uh the kids you know the children
as they
uh evacuate and try and defend those
their homes their cities
you see the uh their pets trying to
get their animals and their belongings
out and
it's international women's day and the
uh the hard
uh heartbreaking work of the the women
of ukraine and poland the surrounding
areas
and uh my wife patty today put together
a little compilation of some of those
photos of women working in ukraine and
it kind of
you know
breaks your heart to see you know how
how difficult that situation must be and
uh matt klingler said something earlier
this week about how you know we don't
have to worry about that we don't have
to think about that here in bexley and
it kind of went over my head for you
know a minute or two and then i thought
that is true you know we can't imagine
that can't imagine you know what that
reality must be like
and so tonight i guess i just want to
say i'm sure you know we're all thinking
of those people and also grateful for
the the safety of uh our families and
ourselves that we take for uh for
granted
mr mcpeek will you call the role please
fibo here klingler here lamke here
marcelino here markham here robinson
here inside here
put your eyes and join me for the pledge
of allegiance
i pledge allegiance to the flag of the
united states of america and to the
republic for which it stands
one nation under god indivisible with
liberty and justice
i think we are
lacking any presentations or special
guests tonight
we have a spot for public comments
mr mcpeak do we have any speaker slips
tonight no speaker slips
thank you i move on to the president's
report very briefly
again comment how nice it is to see
everybody uh here tonight and uh to be
able to conduct a meeting uh without
masks feels kind of nice to see
everybody's faces
and uh most of yeah
the yearly uh jeffrey woods festival
concluded this weekend with the maple
syrup uh
boiling off and i just uh wanted to
remark again what uh how much fun that
is i love coming out to that and what a
uniquely
bexley event that is you know here we
are in arboretum and to be able to
create the maple syrup from our city you
know like that is just fascinating and
we just got just a beautiful day for
people to come out and do that and
makes me really happy uh to be a part of
the city and to have events like that
um
and so i'd love to say thanks to the
mayor and the rec department for putting
that on
also special uh thanks to uh john
robinson for our council retreat last
week
i think we found that yeah
thank you you know what it's not easy to
put those together and i appreciate the
work that that you did to
do that
um and in addition uh thank uh matt
mcpeak for his
fantastic presentation uh really
appreciation for uh what he's bringing
to city council uh this year and uh sort
of his enthusiasm and and just really
found that uh exciting i really did i
appreciate that
elizabeth ellman as well uh at the
retreat and the presentation she gave
thank you thank you to you as well it's
fantastic and our mayor ben kessler for
uh for taking part in that as well
move on to the city attorney report
so just one thing to let people know i
don't i mentioned this at the
pre-council meeting so um but that the
there is legislation that's been
presented in the general assembly um
again don't know if it's going to go in
place although it has numerous sponsors
that would
substantially limit if not completely
limit a local jurisdiction's right to
regulate um
airbnbs and vrbos and and those other
kinds of things so i'll keep you
apprised on that there's actually just
happened to be an article in the
dispatch i think this morning i read it
about the erosion of home rule which has
just gone it's just incredible so
that's all i have
thank you
our city otter report
um nothing significant just uh
appreciate again the time and strategy
session so if you guys have any
questions about any information we
talked about on the finances certainly
circle back with me um as discussed i'll
start the um kind of fun discussions in
our with february results so beecher's
working on um uh wrapping up february
and then we'll follow with that that
cadence where i'll go into some of the
funds in more detail in the second
meeting of the month
and then um had a great conversation
today with um
our investment advisors so it was
introduced to them so i'm learning a bit
more about how we're investing dollars
on behalf of the city so appreciate it
but those are the brief updates
thank you mr right peak
mr mayor would you take us through the
administrative update
yes
thank you president markham
see mr bayshore here let me
bring him over to your screen
andy how are you doing this evening
good mayor
um
mr mayor city council uh my report is
uploaded but i do not have anything else
to add to my report tonight
i have a question for you andy
do you know if there's any plans to
extend the sidewalk project a little
further this year along charles and
south bexley
that um uh mr president that is a plan
um we are working on that because i'd
like to get that all finished up
i'm hoping to do that this summer
you say finished up what is
all the way oh yeah oh that's fantastic
we're fired up ready to go mr martin i
love it oh that'll be great news to
everybody down there we're really
looking forward to that
thank you
any other questions from mr bayshore
andy thank you for an excellent update
have a good evening
good to see you
uh
and we have with us here interim chief
goff
um
i think it'd be great to have you stand
up and come on over here
it's the
uh what happens when you show up in
person
yes
i um
yeah you should have my report i don't
have any additional to the report
that's already noted on there
chief i'm going to echo the uh thoughts
of the columbus dog connection with the
posting of the acorn the dog you guys uh
helped uh fill the cruiser pet supply
drive help take care of abandoned dog
that was fantastic what a cute little
dog
captain goff you mentioned in your
report that there's been some changes in
prosecutorial approaches that have
benefited our city would you elaborate
on that place
yeah a few months ago we made a
transition from
long-time standing prosecutor
kevin mantel
to our new prosecutor of
jj as he loves to be called um
but uh
the updates are
i mean with with any change you're gonna
notice instant motivation from the new
person but
jj is generally
interested in prosecuting our cases i
mean he's making himself accessible 24
hours a day to the officer's needs
and generally interested in cases and
follow-up and he takes it personally
that he doesn't want to lose cases or
make him fall off so
um
and you know mr mantel had a had a
preference of just dealing with paper
kind of copies and
you always had to drive to and from and
it was kind of difficult at times to get
stuff as efficiently as
but jj's introduced
you know the new thing called email so
we
so
we now have officers getting uh
subpoenas by email and it's
it's been a lot better for
contact and
communication and stuff like that so
um
and um
the the emails and plus the
uh the audio video part which takes
extensive time to
to download and copy uh with flash
drives now it's just i know this stuff's
been around forever but it was his
preference so we
you know we respected mantel's press uh
preference and we just but it's been
it's been tremendous tremendous with the
amount of uh motivation that jj has
installed and he's also given us um
access to cindy newsom which is our
victim's advocate so
anytime there's a crime of violence um
we follow up with her and she's she's
been tremendous
i'm so glad that even though it's been
just a short amount of time that there's
been some positive well received
changes thank you
well monique took my a question from me
so great minds but i i want to echo what
she said i think that's really exciting
and i'm glad to hear that that
relationship is really good and and the
enthusiasm is there so nice thanks for
the update sure
yes
yes um
in the report sergeant berkey mentions
um an upward trend with uh weapon crimes
and a few things that it sounds like he
just wants to make
sure that we're aware um he also
mentions that report that it's essential
to for the success to have council
support
i can speak i think for all of us and
say that that is a number one priority
safety for the community so we just say
it right now that
absolutely we support he was afraid he
was going to comment on that and we
talked about it earlier and we both
agree that the support is always here
and we appreciate it
absolutely
i think we i had a great opportunity to
talk to you uh earlier this week and i
really appreciate that and
um i
know that we are
so behind you guys but
you shared with me a a little bit of a
scary statistic about the columbus
police officers and how many they are
losing and i fear council we are going
to need to be that much more
supportive of our police in the future
so
you're going to have to just let us know
what we can do to make sure that
you're safe we're safe what we can do
yeah it's a concern because anytime you
cut
um staffing from
the surrounding jurisdiction police
department uh it's gonna affect us you
know there's gonna be
less police officers to investigate
stuff and
drugs and guns and so they'll be you
know flowing through and
it's going to increase
you know the chances of us getting into
physical
you know altercations possibly i hope
that doesn't happen but
it's just it's on our mind so you know
we we're gonna do the best we can and we
got great people and staff that we can
always have confidence they're gonna do
the right thing and um
and um and always charge toward you know
getting them and then we got one guy on
third shift that's
just tearing it up i mean he's getting a
lot of guns off the street so
um he's not going to stop who is it it's
officer galeck yeah he's amazing he is
amazing yeah so keep us informed just
please please communicate with us so
that we know
we appreciate that absolutely so and you
so be safe sure thank you appreciate it
thank you chief and thank you for being
here with us tonight we appreciate it
thank you can i i just want to if it's
okay mr president just mentioned cause i
don't know that everybody on council is
aware since monique asked questions
about uh our franklin count municipal
court prosecutor if everybody's aware
how this all works so and maybe you are
and if you are okay he's saying so
police officers can
in bexley i mean if if they charge
somebody with a felony then it's going
to the franklin county prosecutor's
office and that's i mean obviously
they're involved in the investigation
and the testimony and whatever is needed
to convict somebody but many things are
misdemeanors and when misdemeanor
officers can tr and bexley can charge
missed
individuals with misdemeanors that would
be a violation of our city ordinances or
a violation of state law and there's a
complete overlap of state law with all
of virtually all of our misdemeanor
ordinances but if they are charged under
our
code a violation a criminal violence
violation of one of our criminal
ordinances then that goes to mayor's
court if they are
charged under state law that goes to
municipal court
and that's where we the city of bexley
contracts with
jj to do the municipal court prosecution
in addition when cases go to municipa
i'm sorry to mayor's court
the defendant has the right to say i
want my case heard downtown by municipal
court
and the magistrate actually can on a
case-by-case basis send cases down there
as well so
i'm guessing that
way overwhelming majority of our cases
that are actually tried because a lot of
misdemeanors are traffic things that
people pay the fines and that's it um
are in municipal court i don't know that
for a fact but that's what i would guess
but anyway that's how that's kind of how
the process works in a very small
nutshell
and and um
to add to that
captain chief chief captain captain
chief mentioned um
the
cindy newsome who's a victims advocate
and if you'll remember we budgeted that
starting in 2021.
it was
uh it took a while to get the support of
our prosecutor downtown to be using her
as a resource it sounds like jj has been
much more proactive about that which has
been awesome because i sighted on the
sergeants meeting yesterday and
just hearing their appreciation of that
program was really rewarding so i think
it's just so you know
these programs that you're funding are
are happening
and if i could mention too i just want
to shout out to you know
the bureau in in our city um
i just want to show you how important it
is a lot of these jurors the detective
bureau for anyone
right yeah a lot of a lot of the
neighboring jurisdictions have stopped
even investigating misdemeanor crimes so
the fact that we still do it and do a
very good job of
investigating and prosecuting these
crimes
just shows a lot to their determination
and willingness to do that and that's
what i fear too around
some of these local agencies they stop
doing that because they're focusing more
on violent crimes which they probably
should they're getting a little bit out
of hand but
just the care that we take for the
residents here and that we take the time
and investigate all the small stuffs
when we can i think it's important to
note
thank you
mr mayor
moving on to
mr price with the recreation and parks
update
hello everyone nothing to add to my
written report
uh mr perez i do want to highlight that
you have in your written report barb
griner's retirement
barb has given
a whole lot to our community
and i know that she'll be
maybe looking to continue on and helping
out with our senior programs but uh
i hope that uh
hope council can join
us on on march 30th in the afternoon for
that open house
barb is a institution of her in and of
herself so
wanted to give her a shout out and uh
commendations for her contributions to
our community
i i appreciate that mayor and i'm she is
what she's given to our community over
33 years of service is
so great they appreciate it on so many
levels um
i will be asking
in the coming days to see if it's
possible to have her in front of council
at the next council meeting as well
yeah
that'd be great
mike you're mike your mic is fading out
just a little bit just so you know
sorry about that
it's all right
a little bit
yeah works i'll sit up my mom would be
happier i'll sit up a little better
um
and excellent work on behalf of our rec
staff also service staff at the jeffrey
woods festival i think we had a record
turnout this year it had nothing to do
with the weather being 74 degrees and
sunny
um but uh i've got some good photos of
you coming up in my update too so don't
don't leave too soon
well i appreciate that and again i would
want to reiterate which you just said a
special thank you to ron
and grant archer who really do the
landing work for this event and make it
happen they're there at four in the
morning and there until we close up and
so we couldn't do it without
their staff and their
heart after that program so thank you
i think your mic went out again did you
say four in the morning that was ron
yes four in the morning and they're
there all day and uh they do a wonderful
job we could we really could not do it
without their efforts
fantastic job great event ron saved our
butts by coming at four because by
starting the fire at four and starting
things boiling that like basically
slices two hours off the end of the
event for everyone else so thank you to
ron
you're a hero
any any questions for mike
thank you sir thank you all
uh mr hale
good evening
um i have no report for this for this
meeting as matt said we'll have the um
um per schedule we'll have the february
numbers at the next meeting
um
but i have told um the service
department that as a part of my report i
would request
that i believe it's ordinance 6 um
22 which regarding the drexel project in
which we're reappropriating 230 some
thousand dollars
i got a email from jordan
today saying that
they need that tonight they'd like to
have it suspended and adopted because
she needs it sooner than she thought and
i would just remind council that that is
a reappropriation so it's not really new
money
and that's all i have thank you beecher
any questions for beecher
featured make sure to stick around a
little bit longer because we're gonna be
talking about that um part-time position
uh here i'm gonna wait for your report
yep thank you sir
all right
um
a couple things to highlight here
i think i mentioned the state of the
community address being a week earlier
than it's going to be we've we had a
venue issue so it will be march 31st to
6 30.
um at jeffrey mansion
um and
we will have the school district there
and the library there and some video
presentations from other partners
and hopefully it will go smoother than
our virtual event last year that was a
little we had some tech hiccups
i don't know i can't believe that was
just a year ago i felt like five years
ago anything but anyway
um and uh saint patrick's day
is like
next week so
i thought you guys should remember that
i've been having i've been very busy
over the past couple weeks
one of the things i have been enjoying
thoroughly is doing
officer ride-alongs i am i am aiming to
sit in a cruiser with every officer that
we have
all of whom i know but i it's been
really interesting and enlightening and
rewarding to get to know them a little
bit better and
um really get to see kind of differences
in style and
uh and perspective so
that's part of the engagement process
for our chief search and uh it's been
going well
and i meant to take us like pictures
with every ride along and then do a
composite photo but i
i really messed up so
i'm gonna i might have to recreate some
or something i'm not sure yeah recreate
all right
um so i have a search update but i gave
that to you guys last week pretty much
um in essence
i do want to talk to you about something
you need
to i need your help brainstorming on is
it you love this when i put you guys
in this position but
um i was approached by the state of
columbus last week coco
is obviously a partnership between us
columbus
grandview and
upper arlington
and uh
now it's an op a network that's operated
by lyft so it's a privately operated
uh
service that's supported by the city of
columbus and columbus is financially
supported in the past
the
concept that they have in every city
that they're in is to have a corporate
or private sponsor so like for example
in new york i think it's like the city
bikes or something or
not sure which bikes are where chicago
is i'm gonna i've used them and i can't
remember who does what anyone remember
dc but they're all the the sponsors so
they have
they do not have that in columbus they
failed to get that they keep trying so
columbus has agreed to uh
essentially subsidize the network
through mid-2024
um
i i had a meeting with kogo and columbus
and they asked they're asking
grandview upper ellington bexley if we
would be willing to take our pro rata
share of that subsidy
it is
not insubstantial it's something in the
range of
60 or 70 thousand dollars per year
and or 65 per station per month
um so
uh there's a
new feature as part of that which is
they would you know provide annual
memberships for the community to
disperse
extensively i would think if we did that
would be to low-income
riders
we would have a 225
annual member allotment which is an
in-kind
equivalent of around
20 000
and by the way i said that number off
the top of my head i think it might have
been a little bit high it's but it's not
it's not substantial i'm now that i'm
saying that i remember seeing twenty
thousand dollar in kind and somewhere in
the range of forty five thousand roughly
for per year is that right okay not
always like so this is why i shouldn't
i just opened up a new notebook today so
my notes from last week are in the old
one
this is
occupational hazard right now um so
i
you know that's that's a lot of money
for us and um we're going to be pulling
some ridership information
number of members that are currently in
bexley
um and coming back to you guys but i
want to
have you thinking about that a little
bit
um we
uh sort of
jokingly said that we could just go out
and purchase bikes and do like what
amsterdam does and just leave them out
for the use of the community for that
sort of funding but um
i say that only partially joking but uh
i just think we need to think carefully
about that and what it means so
um
nothing actionable on that at this point
i told them i would
circle back with you guys and have that
conversation
they were so kind as to point out it is
possible that arp funding would be a
source of funding for
for this but
so
any question on that i wonder
mayor kessler are they able to track
um even if it's pers how do they track
per station
so
if someone okay
so they would be able to show it it
leaves bexley to go to
yep so we have some of that data um i
think
what is true is that
and this is true of arlington and to an
extent grand view as well is that we're
sort of end of network locations
so we don't have the same sort of
throughput that their central locations
would have which makes sense you know
there aren't points to the east of us to
go to
so we are lower lower utilization
stations
we've
we've edged out upper arlington i think
mostly which not that i'm paying
attention or anything
um but uh but nonetheless we're we're
you know we're a lower
lower utilization compared to which
makes perfect sense compared to the
higher
density urban locations that they have
closer to the downtown core how many
stations do we have we have
four four stations and capital right
here at city hall um one at johnson's
and one at uh bexley or
bexley jeffrey mansion how many bikes
are on each station
oh my goodness
my memory says they come in either eight
or sixteen but memoir is also thirty
thousand dollars off of my first number
so you know i'll have the auditor out of
that for me
oh look
look at that matt's auditing it right
now
it's there
this is good
we have had growth over the past few
years you know um as as they've been in
place they've added like e-bikes and
some other things
um i wanted you guys to be aware of this
is a little bit different south drexel
water and sewer work
the reason i say it's a little bit
different is
we have a new option that we're
providing our residents who
are part of our water line replacement
so as our water line replacement project
goes in place
whenever we find lead service lines
which the lead service lines are the
it's the line between the water main
and what's called a curb box so in each
property there's a curved box near the
tree lawn in the tree lawn typically
where
the water can be shut off
and then from the curb box to the house
that water line is owned by the property
owner the city maintains responsibility
to maintain the section between the curb
box and the main
unlike or like very similar to other
communities our age we have some lead
service lines between the main
and the curve box now columbus treats
our water with an additive
which is very common that makes it so
lead does not leach into the drinking
water
and so if we think about flint michigan
for example that was not in our water
system and there were some other issues
so it's not an uncommon condition we
test our water for lead you know we know
that our rates are within compliance but
nonetheless when we know that when we
come across those service lines we
replace them
the newest guidance says that that if
there's galvanized piping in the on the
property side of that so between the
curb box and the house
that
we should offer residents with an option
to replace those because galvanized
piping
can leech lead as well possibly
so
um that's a that's guidance from the epa
we are going to be following that
guidance
and the way that we're going to do it is
we have negotiated through our
contractor with a per property price to
replace the water line and then the
property owner can at their at their own
option exercise that if they wish to
they're not required to do it it's just
an option that we're providing to them
the good news is it's substantially
cheaper than it would be for residents
to normally go out and do it on their
own so
and if somebody has an original
galvanized pipe
it's very likely that you know in short
order it's going to burst on them so
it's a good option we would be replacing
them with copper lines
from the control box to the house
so we will be sending letters out to
residents notifying them of that program
and that option
you know i anticipate that anytime
anyone reads lead and service lines you
know it's it's cause for concern and
um wanted you to understand we test
systemically and on different properties
throughout the city
for lead as does columbus
the water is treated knowing that there
is lead in portions of the
infrastructure as we find it we replace
it and
it's an extra service to the residents
um
livingston avenue plan we talked about
that we talked in the community
uh beecher
part-time finance and hr proposal
yes sir
attached to the agenda is a proposed
position there's not an ordinance before
you tonight we just wanted to talk to
you about it
we have
as you know we've contracted out our
assistant finance director
that's been going well
but we've also found through that that
there are some things on site that would
be helpful to have and we believe that
we can in a cost neutral fashion
hire a about a 20 hour a week worker to
help with the on-site work it will
reduce the amount of outside contractor
pay that will we will be providing
and also pick up an extra function that
we don't currently have which is
somebody dedicated to helping with hr
some of the hr functions of the city
so
a proposed position description is
attached
um there's the proposed pay range
tracks with um
what i would kind of say is our kind of
our mid-tier city hall staff
pay
uh it would be a position without
benefits
um it would be
roughly 20 hours a week on average
um
and
beecher has
been excitedly talking about this as
says natalie as it relates to hr
functions so feature anything you'd like
to add to that
yeah i agree with everything you said
natalie and i both struggle
with you know having to pitch in on hr
functions
also it just helps us have just better
internal control have more separation of
duties that type of thing
um
and uh which is critical
and uh and i believe it'll it could be
better than cost neutral because this
individual will not make as much as our
assistant finance director so
if every hour let's just say if every
hour she works it takes away an hour
from angie then we'll actually save
money and i think it's very important
that we you know get some
get some people who um
or some separation of so that all things
aren't just running through one person
um because that's very important in our
environment
and um yeah that's all i have
any questions about that and that will
be in an ordinance form as well plenty
of time to look at it yep
so and and i'm sorry i didn't talk to
you about this because i didn't know you
were thinking i thought you're thinking
full time i think you should seriously
consider a full-time employee for this
there are so many hr functions that are
not getting done and again that's no
knock on natalie and when i just look at
these things
and and first of all i should say at
least in my experience working with a
lot of other cities bexley's
administrative part of things is is is
on the low end of staffing just to leave
it at that so again i'm sorry i didn't
mean to we should have probably talked
about this
i don't want to get in the weeds here at
this meeting but we should really talk
about that because there are a lot of
things that
i think need to be done and look an
organization with 150 employees
at 170 employees without a without at
least a half-time devoted hr person is
unheard of
and so we're doing a great job thank you
you are doing a great job but i don't i
think i think six sigma black belts yeah
all of that is true but again i i think
there are a lot of things that
we should talk about before you commit
to
only a part-time person in my opinion i
think it's a great conversation to have
and no we did not set it up
and i you know i i could see some
as you all know i am
hesitant when we add positions and i'm
careful about how we do it 100 so i
think we look at that
and i'm also concerned about who you
might get for only 20 hours to do some
of these
relatively sophisticated duties i could
be wrong about that you know absolutely
not to
over promise and undeliver but i've just
seen models of part-time similar
employees that have seemingly worked
well with some of them
so sure it's very possible we talked to
the library about potentially sharing a
position like this as a full-time they
have a part-time position i think that
works well for them
they don't have as many employees again
they don't have as many employees they
don't have a union not the unions cause
uh take a lot of time and they don't
they don't have the same kind of
liability issues where somebody who's
doing some risk management um for the
city could be a real benefit you know
they're not out there plowing streets
and arresting bad guys and things like
that you know just they don't have a
mark officially either they do not have
a mark official that is very true
they have a joanne facial
any questions about that now or i mean
we can always talk obviously we will
talk about it later
okay and then finally just a couple
photos to share with you we had an
awesome litter pickup with the high
school environmental club
um
for a brief moment in time
allen creek and main street was a little
less littering
actually i think it still is so admire
that yeah did you
did you stage that box intentionally i
know kind which box no that was yeah
yeah it's kind of yeah no okay there was
a kind bar box there living on that ship
and then the jeffrey woods festival was
great thanks to those who swung by um
we
collect we collected we produced about
140 bottles of maple syrup which is
just down by four i think from our
record last year
um and if you want to see what sam
schumannski looks like at a log splitter
that's that's what he looks like so
there you go i also want to call mike
price
was so excited to have insulated car
hearts
for this event and then
it was 74 degrees
yes so he had he we had to call the
squad because of the heat stroke
incident
other than that
it was fantastic so thanks again to
everyone who participated and helped out
um i have one last piece but before i go
to any other any questions about my
update or anything else i can cover
elizabeth allman
is here to talk to us about a proposal
for feet on the street
and
i
i have mixed feelings about this program
i think it sounds great and also i
wanted to make sure the council
had a chance to think about it as well
and again i'm not i feel like i already
set you up i don't have mixed feelings
about it because i think it's a bad
program i think it's a program that we
just want to be aware of what it is and
i think it's fantastic and so let's talk
about it i just
really duffed that one sorry elizabeth
there's a set up for you great um so i'm
here to talk about feet on the street
it's a nationwide program that i would
like to implement here um i have
submitted a grant proposal already
through the ohio epa but if it is not
something that you're comfortable with
we can withdraw the application was due
in early february and there just wasn't
enough time
between the time i was hired and your
meetings
and the time it would take to write the
proposal to have me come in front of you
before we started
um and 86 000 households have already
participated in this program across the
country which is great so feet on the
street is an approach to reducing
contamination in our recycling bins it
was first developed through the
recycling partnership and
they educate folks to behavior to change
behaviors to have cleaner recycling and
as you know
there are a lot of things that are put
in our recycling bins that should not be
there
thank you you can scroll down uh why
should we clean up recycling you can
scroll down again
because we want this and you can scroll
down and we don't want this which
frankly is what a lot of our things look
like i'm not sure if you see
what is put on our streets on sunday
evenings but
there was a brief period of time where i
decided i couldn't go out on sunday
evening for my cardiac and mental health
um i'm working on that and i think this
program will also help all of us
so we can be healthier individuals
mentally heart healthily and far
environment okay thanks you can scroll
down
so
obviously there's a lot of contamination
which is the wrong materials in the
system which we see a lot or the right
materials prepared incorrectly so things
that are too dirty are contamination as
well as like plastics that shouldn't be
there those are also contamination
thank you you can scroll down um and
contamination is really detrimental it
raises
prices um prices that we're paying
and cost money and time and is a safety
hazard sam and i visited the rumpke
murph in 2019 early 2020 maybe um and it
was during one of their planned shutdown
times because of contamination they have
to shut down the facility a few times a
day just to get rid of all the
contamination there was also a hind leg
of some sort of for like an animal there
that was contamination we don't see that
often in bexley but in case we do
will catch that if we participate in
this program so how does it work you can
scroll down a few weeks before we want
to begin we would send out an
informational card just like
soyko and rumke does a few times a year
and also educate residents about what
can and cannot be recycled and this
program will be happening through the
blast on social media other cities have
done some really fun
um facebook and instagram videos where
the mayor jumps out of toaders so
we first make the community aware that
this program is going to be happening
[Laughter]
with like contaminations dripping off of
me and you can scroll down we've already
we've already recorded that slot by the
way
and then what happens is before rumpke
comes out there would be a team of
inspectors that go and they just open
the lids of the toters to see what is on
the top layer and then you get a tag if
you did a great job you get a good job
tag if there's contamination you also
get a tag
the first time if there's contamination
you get in a warning tag and the second
time there is contamination you get an
oops tag
and if that happens your cart would not
be picked up that week
don't worry you can fix it and get it
picked up the next week um and
everything is tracked so when people
call and complain um we'll be able to
see why their stuff wasn't picked up and
it will also be left on their tag so if
you can scroll down there are draft tags
we would customize these um
with the contaminants that we're going
to be focusing on but people would have
this information at their fingertips
and we would work too better utilize the
space
and make them prettier
um i
believe that this will cost around four
dollars and fifty cents per household if
we are to do four audits generally
cities do between two and four audits
rumpke has told me that they would be
interested in at least two and up to
four audits
for a total
it the whole program would be under
twenty thousand dollars we would have to
match the grant um for three thousand
eight hundred and ninety four dollars
but
if you scroll down a little bit
so just to be clear that the numbers up
here are not actually numbers they're
sampled yes those are samples
um a lot of communities have done this
throughout
the country including columbus and
gahanna
and if you scroll down a little bit
they've noticed a lot of reduction in
fairfield akron and centerville
um like 40 reduction which is incredible
and that
can also lead to lower
rates
potentially that we are paying for
recycling at rumpke because they have to
throw out all of the contamination
anyway
um so i would like to recommend that we
start our feet on a street program to
reject carts after a warning i will take
all of those phone calls from people who
are not happy about that and that we
start planning internally by consulting
which we have already done
um
and
then i think i have one more thing this
is
a conceptual roi and it shows the
financials of how a program like this
could positively impact a community and
the surrounding communities as they pay
their recycling rates because as the
contamination is lowered the there's an
increased cost or the increased
um
rate of their materials
lorien
um
can you just
go over again
yes so i'm proposing this right now only
with the grant um
my cost estimates for four audits would
be just under twenty thousand dollars
and our portion that's total um our
portion would be three thousand eight
hundred and ninety four dollars which we
have in the budget so but we we have
adequate budget for it
um
i i i did a disservice by saying i have
mixed feelings because what i've meant
what if if i had more
eloquently stated it would have i would
have said
you have convinced me
of a program that at first i was a
little concerned about the idea of
having volunteers because they wouldn't
be volunteers turns out having people um
you know going through wastes
containers
and
concerns about privacy and and feeling
like uh maybe are we going a little too
far with this um but i think
first off many models throughout the
country as you pointed out i'm actually
having coffee with mayor jadwin of
cahanna tomorrow to discuss the program
and other things which see how it went
um from their perspective but i do think
you know the the exercise that we did at
the council retreat was kind of a good
setup
to point out like there's it's a
confusing
bag
of recyclable materials that you
shouldn't put in a bag
um so i think you know it's a form of
education it's more proactive more
direct and could be very helpful so i
thank you for your passion and putting
the time into it i think money
i i had a couple of questions and i i
don't know that i'll be able to
eloquently
flesh them out but bear with me
if you get
an oops tag
meaning that your stuff is
too much together it's too contaminated
what then does the resident have to do
to get it picked up did they have to
empty it clean it out
start fresh
yes okay
but theoretically all the materials are
dry
um also pro tip they're only going to
open the top of the toter so
not that i'm advocating that you
i'm not going to dig through it you're
going to put all the you want us to put
all the contamination at the bottom what
i'm saying is that's what i heard too
just the animal hindus
you just put the clean stuff on top next
time it shouldn't be such a big deal
okay um my second question was do we
have any idea what our percent of
contamination rate is such that before
we even started we'd know what the
baseline is we do not but part of the
proposal is that there will be a
baseline study
um
rumpke said that there's a 15.5
contamination rate
in like the jurisdiction
but i don't know they don't know
specifically what bexley says but we
would find that out before and after one
or two post audits okay and my third and
final question is if i get an oops tag
and i'm too
lazy to
clean it out start fresh is there a
potential that more people are just
going to throw recyclables in the trash
and recycle less at the end of the day
that is the potential however most i've
talked to people from gehenna and they
said that most people were really eager
to learn um and to do the right thing
and so it has had positive benefits and
that hasn't been an issue
yep
is is are the cost per household is that
per ch trip or a yearly cost or a
monthly cost or what is which what price
three dollars and 23 cents
it's a little higher cost that was a
sample 450 per household in bexley which
is all in that whole program for four
audits so it's like a dollar and 12
cents
gotcha for the whole year
four audits in a year no in a month
sorry in a month this will happen in
september based on the time period that
is good for rumpke and the company that
we would hire to do this and it's like
september and it's a sustainable
september get ready for that
so it's not every month no it would be
every
it would be two to four times during
september
okay
one month of waste harassment
just didn't come back
i didn't know the timeline i didn't know
it was year
every week
and then to get the grant
do you have to have essentially the
punitive measure of them not taking the
recycling i guess that that's what i'm
struggling with candidly is
you know if the purpose is to educate
people i think that can be done without
the punitive
nature of like keeping
that at the house so i guess is that an
option or is that required in order to
get the grant um best practice is
the
stopping of the service they've done
this multiple times throughout the
country and they found that stopping the
service is the number one way to get
people to change their habits despite
the continued efforts that happen ahead
of time people don't really care unless
their service is stopped once with a
four-week program
if
clearly they're tracking data on each
household if there's a one-time thing
right right
or
could there that be a first warning
there is a first first warning yeah and
then it gets then it gets real yeah good
idea so we have to have that that's how
i wrote the grant
yeah okay
well it's an epa grant and it's an epa
program
and yes sam's had to stand up for a
while
you can go ahead it's international
women's tech
sam
thank you thank you
you may get a polish in your future
[Laughter]
elizabeth i commend you for bringing um
a program before us that i'm
going to have to now
very much educate myself on and learn
more about it
as you saw at our retreat we love a pie
graph and we love the numbers so i think
tailoring this a little bit more towards
bexley
to get some numbers on
i'm very interested in that
contamination rate
i think this is could be a very
aggressive approach to the community and
i think that we need to be able to speak
to what that contamination rate is
that's something we can find out if you
approve it and we get the grant and then
they can do
so i do worry about that a little bit
yeah so yeah
to highlight what you're saying the
contamination rate data
is a byproduct of this program
we don't have we don't have community
specific contamination rate information
we can pull
what columbus and gahanna found and we
could extrapolate but we don't really
know until we have first done the
program
so just a concern
because people will ask why we're doing
it so
um
i guess we'd start there with the
gahanna i like that you're meeting with
gahanna i would be interested in
hearing from them as well
more about the program and
um
getting that information from them and
then matt mcpeek kind of spoke on this
but i'm curious and it sounds like we
can't because it's an epa program but i
was wondering if we could tailor it
tailor a program like this to what we
believe would work better for our
community but it doesn't sound like we
can if we get a grant from the epa there
is tailoring by
by doing the warning tag they don't
suggest that um but i understand that
there has been concern about not having
morning tech so that's why i included it
but they found that that does not have
as great of results as just stopping
service for one week so there's some
wiggle room yes that we could consider
right
yeah
i mean so
to
to kind of push back on on your thought
which i understand um so let's say it
happens to one of us it will it will
happen to one of us in september it will
happen to the sod household so you you
want to view her and you find a tag and
it says
we love you saad family but you you know
you put some thin film plastic in your
in your container and
um soiled pizza boxes
for example who knows um that sounds
soiled pizza boxes yes you got it right
you got me so
i think the value and
it's kind of like when you come home
like happened to me yesterday
and you find a kitchen full of
mac and cheese and bubble tea product
and a mess everywhere and you say to the
kids you need to clean up after yourself
and then you just clean up after them
right
versus
you need to clean up after yourselves
get in the kitchen clean up the mess
please
now okay i'm i'm being a little flippant
with this but the point is the exercise
of removing the contamination properly
disposing of the contamination placing
the recycling back is a pretty powerful
piece of the program
so i already learned a lot from our
retreat just from elizabeth and taking a
taking this role on for the city i think
it is an important role i supported it
when it came before council
um
so just food for thought here
yeah i'll say that there is a lot of
education ongoing rumpke sent out a
mailer a month or two ago you all
received it i don't know how many people
looked at it um but it's
the stopping of the
the pickup that is really what gets
people because yeah that warning i mean
not the morning but the information card
as many of you might know
gets recycled sometimes
sam
uh so would this require in order to get
the grant complete participation from
the city because it looks like
centerville there's a thousand homes
listed but there's like i just did a
quick google there's like 10 000 homes
in centerville so that only represents
10 of the community so would this be an
i would there be an opportunity to have
partial participation from those that
elected to similar to the mosquito uh
study that they they chose to or will
require the entire community to
i wrote it as the entire community there
are some places i think hannah only did
part of the community because they had
so many people and i think that was the
same as
columbus
but i wrote it for everyone okay
generally speaking i would guess that
the people who
would elect to participate if that was
an option are the ones who are already
recycling well okay
oh yeah
i think it's an awesome idea i think
there's gonna be something because
really i mean we are recycling because
we want to recycle we want
to do this for our environment why
wouldn't we want to do it right
and it's going to take i think it's
going to take educating
big time and i i i see some
celebration events activities
on the lawn the main event you know
doing some of this i think you could
have a good time doing it i really do um
i i see lots of information going out to
our community so they're aware that it's
doing i i see all of us helping
elizabeth really um
communicate with our constituents that
that sustainable you know september is
going to be an education for all of us
because there is no plan for you so
we've got to work on this i mean i think
that you know you don't want to do that
in september
don't put your container out
you know i mean they're people are smart
enough they'll get to get their way or
you know they'll go their way around it
i mean that's not the point i understand
but i just think that
but why do we do it if we're not going
to do it right
like i mean because we feel good about
putting a blue container out there for
all kinds of stuff i mean
you're right
or we shouldn't do it at
yeah
i've got a clarification clarification
question then i what
are we talking about when we talk about
a level of contamination
that would then cause a refusal of
service
so they open it and they look just at
the top but i'm saying if they're are
you saying if there is just
maybe one
there has to be a threshold i mean is it
as 100 or nothing
i would have to consult i think that's a
big thing to consider here because i
think we all try i'm just going to say
if we're recycling we are trying there's
definitely
a benefit to getting feedback like you
gave us and we do that in our household
all the time we play the little trivia
game is this recyclable or not
and we argue about it and we're not sure
who's right sometimes
so to get some feedback i think is
helpful and probably welcome but i am
with mr mcpeek here that i am really
wary
of being punitive probably not taking
someone's recycling if they have
made a mistake if it's a small mistake
or
or i don't know so i'm not sure about
what that level would be that would be
acceptable to leave someone's recycling
there because i'll tell you this
you are not probably prepared to take
those phone calls if you leave someone's
recycling i will say that there is a
script that i can follow for taking
those phone calls yeah but then
ultimately then they call me and they
called you you're not going to be the
only one taking those phone calls but
we're going to refer them all to just
side which is
jen was first
listen uh i like lori anne i i see a lot
of benefit in this program i do share
some of the same concerns that others
around here do
um and
i would just like to echo in his
lorienne school with this as part of the
celebrations committee the that activity
that we did at the retreat was
ridiculously eye-opening and i know we
were all kind of being silly but the the
the three you know pieces of paper on
the ground and is this recyclable is
this not is this trash i mean that kind
of education along with this kind of
program i think is really going to be
key because we just don't want to hit
people in september with
oops tags i think that's gonna uh result
in a lot of phone calls that you may or
may not be able and ready to handle well
and add in another week i mean we could
look at
doing two weeks with warnings in two
weeks with so then you've got like two
weeks of education
and this thing would say you know
for your second if your final two weeks
of sustainable september
matt mcpeak has demanded that we
curtail service
um no but i mean the that we could
provide more of an education leading up
to then you have two weeks
of refusal service which
because you've added an extra week
is essentially theoretically rumpy has
only promised us two
times in which case we would have one
what would what's rumpke's participation
they have to
sort of change their routes to allow the
um
inspectors to go out first
so they've committed to two and are open
to four so we could do one and two
or one in one
or we could see if we could do two and
two
right
yes
so um
trey's conversation made me think of
we're all creatures of habit right
and off of lorianne's conversation
i actually would hate for someone to do
the reversal
and
not want to put recycling out
you know i love that effort and and like
you said laurie and we're trying
um i love the education all for it
but i wouldn't want to go the reverse
because
they're a busy household and it's just
easier to send it to the trash and then
they're defeated in the process because
i do believe that we do
a better job than most communities
and it's kind of like
i love walking along and seeing all
those recycle bins out i know we could
do better i know i could do better i
learned a ton just on your sunday
program i love having that at main event
like jen said i took that home to my
kids they knew a lot more than mom they
were like yes mom that lid comes off so
we learn a lot from them but i i
i'm just weary of um
uh
making some people feel defeated and
then not wanting to to participate in
recycling so
just a concern and then the
contamination piece um
as you already know that we need to kind
of dive into that a little more
i will say that
for
um people who might be wary and then
put things in the trash
some of the good recycling is already
going in the trash
even though they've put in their cycling
because things are so contaminated that
it can't be separated
so
it's like some wish cycling involved
okay so
this has been a really good conversation
we're going to be finding out whether or
not the grant is received
um we'll take some of the feedback that
we've heard here
talk about a little bit reciprocal
regroup and communicate back to you guys
about
sort of what we're thinking going
forward all right
thank you thanks so much elizabeth thank
you
so i tried to did i set a record there
mr president
which kind of record were you trying to
start dave
we want kind of elizabeth against you
thank you
are we ready are you done
all right consent agenda meeting minutes
of 222 22
and ordinance 322 to appropriate 2700
from the friends of jeffrey preschool
fund to pay preschool-related expenses
in 2022 that was introduced by ms lamke
thank you mr official any questions
comments on the consent agenda
[Music]
can i get some action on the consent
agenda
so moved
second uh are we getting a motion to
approve sorry motion to approve money
clampy yes
second a second matt klingler mr mcpeek
go ahead
ms todd
yes ms robert yes mr wingler yes ms
yes
yes ms marco yes
yes
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motion passes seven zero
mr official go ahead all right so
there's no third readings we're jumping
the second reading ordinance 6-22 to
re-appropriate 236 thousand
298.33 from the south drexel avenue and
grandin avenue project fund to pay the
city's matching share on this project ms
lamke
thank you um beecher is probably still
is he still with this mayor
uh if not it's okay
this is the one he spoke about a little
bit earlier during his report it's
simply a reappropriation
and if council is comfortable
he recommended that we adopt and suspend
it so i'll open it up to questions or
concerns
anybody
do do you want me to do a more in-depth
re-explanation sure especially maybe
we're considering adopting and
suspending this is a uh this is an opwc
funded project
but this this portion of appropriation
is for the city's match
that is provided in the form of design
services and engineering services that
are preparing for the program itself
so the money was appropriated
last year
it was not carried forward into this
year
um and so we're asking to re-appropriate
it to finalize those
uh
services in order to then proceed
forward with the project
which and then the project itself is
grant funded
slash uh
no interest loan funded through opwc
great thank you mayor
um how would how does council feel about
suspending the 3-d reading requirement
and considering adopting this tonight
are you making a motion
i'll make the motion if i'm hearing that
people are comfortable doing that
yep okay
i move to suspend the three reading
requirement for ordinance 6-22
second
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motion made and seconded
mr mcp
miss fibel
yes missad yes mr marcellino yes miss
lamke yes miss robinson yes mr markham
yes and mr finkler yes
motion to suspend the three ring rule
was passed thank you i moved to adopt
ordinance 6-22
second
motion seconded by jen robinson
mr mcpeak
just make sure to ask oh i'm sorry that
is true we do have a uh we need to pause
here for a public comment if anybody has
public comment
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mr vicky go ahead
okay
miss fibal yes miss sod yes mr marcelino
yes miss lamke yes miss robinson yes mr
markham yes and mr klingler yes
motion passes 7-0
okay on to the second reading of
ordinance 5-22 to protect the rights of
individuals to wear face coverings in
places of public accommodation
introduced by mr marcelino
thank you very much uh as many are aware
now the city has lifted its mass mandate
um this ordinance will be introduced to
protect the right of individuals to wear
their masks in
in place of accommodation uh it's to
protect those that are most vulnerable
if they choose to continue to wear a
mask um they're well i'm not unaware of
any instances here in bexley and have
heard some nationwide uh instances of uh
businesses that
require people to remove their mass and
we felt it i feel as though it's
appropriate to allow patrons to continue
to wear them if they so choose um
that's about all i have on that one
any questions or comments
assad
are we able to actually click on that
and pull up we are 5 22. we can do that
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so um
mr marcelino
my reservation with this is that
i feel like bexley can do this and do it
well
without having an ordinance put in place
i believe that our residents are
respectful of each other and um i i
believe that if you so choose to wear a
mask or not
with where we are right now with it
being optional is the right place for
where we are
and um
i think that
bexley doesn't need to add a layer
with an ordinance to say that you can
wear a mask in
our facilities our theaters our store
because
i respect thy neighbor like we sit here
tonight and some of us are choosing to
wear that and i 100 respect that and
some of us are not and i think that's
where we're at um i have had a personal
experience since 2019 before mass were
popular or a thing that we had to do my
mom had a double lung transplant she's
um
pulmonary
idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis so
she will always live in a mask and uh
and so i'm very sensitive because i've
had the experience
and i do believe in hearing my kids talk
about their friends who are mascot
school right now and those who are not i
just think that
we can lead by example
and i don't know that we need to put
a law in place
to show people how to lead i just
believe in the 43209
the community
we will do the right thing
i guess am i allowed to reply to that
sure okay
i agree with you um that we are a unique
community that typically will support
each other um however that only lasts
until we don't um and when we don't i
would prefer not to see council scramble
to try and rectify that should a company
let's say like giant eagle um allow this
supermarket to require patrons to remove
their mask or at a bank let's say a bank
says you have to take your mass down
because it's a risk or something along
those lines
i would hate um to see this come back to
us to have to address at that point so
while i completely agree acknowledge
what you're saying i think that i do
have some concerns that um
things could change in the future and i
would prefer not have to
address that situation should it come
and i feel as though this is a very
it's a minimally invasive
ordinance um as though like you said it
probably won't even go notice but if a
company
or business comes into our community and
has a different stance on things
we would have some strength behind it to
say no you have to allow people that are
at risk to wear it if they so choose
jess i'm going to ask if anybody else
has comment as well
mike um i had a couple of thoughts and
one is i'm interested in seeing if any
of us or perhaps the mayor or the
auditor or our attorney
have we heard from businesses on how
they feel about this possible piece of
legislation which
um
would you know would be new to them has
there been any feedback
pro or against i just haven't heard
anything
um i have not heard anything better
it says other anyone else from council
heard
okay i guess since it's only the second
reading i would be really interested to
see if any of our
you know business residents who might be
listening in or if you hear something um
i think that that would be an important
piece of the conversation
to to consider
and then my second question was an
enforcement of this mayor you might be
able to speak to this but
would this fall upon
code enforcement does this fall upon our
police um could you speak to that
slander i would i would need to refresh
my memory let me pull that up
unless mr official knows right off the
top of his head this section of the code
so give us a moment if that's okay sure
other questions or comments
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is sutton um i was
um had similar questions to ms lamke
just off of our
businesses but i think it's important to
read out loud that penalty piece because
just making sure everybody is aware
um and then that's the
important question like who are the
enforcers
of that but under this ordinance under
penalties a whoever violates any
provision of this chapter for which no
other specific penalty has been provided
other than the denial suspension or
revocation of a license shall be fined
not more than a hundred dollars each
day's continuance shall
constitute a separate offense so just
trying to understand
um
how that
penalty would
be
policed is that the right word so fair
enough mr mayor mr markham this is in
our business um
regulation taxation code uh it is a it
would be administered by the code
enforcement officer not by the police
it's not a criminal penalty of any sort
um
the
mention of a license here is because
it's it's very similar language to other
sections of the code there's actually
not a license present here so that
language could probably be stricken if
if we wanted to but
um it's similar to other business
offenses and the key there is that
um if a business chooses to willfully
continue to ignore the law
that the fines would continue day after
day and i think
um again we're not aware of any
businesses and vexes that have done that
we are aware of businesses that have
chosen to do that
because they think it's a and for
whatever reason they've chosen to do
that and we know that there are people
in our community who have legitimate
concerns about their own health
and should have control over their own
health and so
i again i don't to me that does not seem
like an undue penalty considering it is
very similar to other business penalties
for code violations
mr mark connect yes mr official so i
agree with everything the mayor said in
terms of the enforcement yeah i guess
the other thing i'd like to point out
here and maybe to
councilman marcelino's point as well is
that
we are fortunate to be in bexley because
people are very respectful about this
but
it only takes one and we all know that
for whatever crazy reasons and i'll say
i'll use the word crazy masks are
political and i think that they
shouldn't be but i think this
legislation and again i'm just the
lawyer here uh but i think this
legislation
makes sure that there isn't even one
what i would call rogue
business owner in bexley who says i'm
not serving you because this darn
pandemic is over and you don't need a
mask or whatever phraseology and we know
that if that happens and we don't have
this legislation there's not much we can
do about it and i don't think anybody in
this room would want to see that happen
so
again i'm the lawyer i shouldn't chime
in on substantive things but i do
sometimes and this is
one that's appropriate
i'm going to
send it around the room one more time
here anybody
the son
i just i think it's a great question if
our businesses are are
asking for this and then i 100 support
like i said um
people protecting their health
again i
am very close to an individual who has
to do that
um
but i believe i don't know that this
ordinance changes much
people should be good people and i
believe we can do that in bexley so
you have the right as of now to walk in
with a mask or without and i i don't see
in our 43209 that this is
this is
needed
mr president may ask a clarifying
question
so
today there is
through executive order currently a
prohibition very similar to this um
i'm trying to understand
so your position would be that if a
business
if an individual comes in a business
with a mask for health purposes and the
business says you may not enter this
business and do business here
that you are you feel that that's the
business is right to do that
just so i can i don't believe a business
is going to do that
so you're so
if i can clear in the 43209
we're getting a little close to the
debate here but i'm just trying to under
i'm trying to understand if that's okay
i'm not sure but not debating so your
perspective is that
because you don't believe a business
would do that you therefore think the
legislation's unnecessary that is
correct thank you thank you yeah
appreciate it
mr fishel
that was so long okay
all right
and i clicked that bit there we go
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so we are up to the second reading of
ordinance 422
to certify especially i gotta get this
to the right level for my
focus here to certify special
assessments for the repair of sidewalks
where the work was not done by the owner
after being ordered by the city in
accordance with mexico section
1490.15 1490.15b 4a or bexley code
section
1492.04b1 and it was necessary to do the
work and assess the owner to assess the
owner of properties with unpaid alarm
fees in accordance with bexley code
section 643.0
to certify a special assessment in
accordance with bexley code section
1490.18
environmental contamination and to
certify special assessments for code
violation abatements where work was not
done by the owner after being ordered by
the city in accordance with bexley code
section 1490 and it was necessary to do
the work and assess the owner
introduced by ms lamke would you say
that again please i missed no i'm just
kidding
just just kidding
okay um this is our second reading and
mr official pretty much uh explained the
substance through the title of the
ordinance for
a variety of assessments i believe mayor
we we were still waiting on
that information for section six or do
we have that and we want to consider
discussing that now
so we do have the information we're
going to need to amend no matter what
because we have to circle back just
double check that someone hasn't paid
some some
outstanding fines and then clean up with
it with an amendment so
the
uh the outstanding abatements that would
be added to that are up on the screen
for you guys to see um you can see there
aren't that many of them but those are
all code enforcement violation
abatements that were not paid
do we want to consider doing that at the
the next
reading which is the third reading okay
and what we'll do on the third reading
and
maybe the auditor can remind me and
collectively we can do this is
work with
the service department and
the code enforcement department to just
check all of those fees
see what has and hasn't been paid do a
cleanup and make sure we're current as
of that day
sounds good there any questions or
comments from council
mr
klingler so you mentioned you said the
word fines these aren't fines on top of
the cost of what it was to replace like
a square sidewalk
right so if you if you were proactive
and said yes andy i want to replace my
square sidewalk it's 200 you pay the
service department that's just they
didn't say anything and then we went
ahead and replaced it and that's the
same cost so that's 200 okay
there is a penalty built into the code
enforcement violation because that
occurs after a warning has been provided
violation notice
and then somebody doesn't clean it up
within a lot of time frames so for grass
and weeds it's a seven day period
which
can be maddening if you're
taking the phone calls from the
neighbors on those properties um but uh
and then after the seven day period the
city has the ability to go in with a
contractor and have the work done and
it's a um
it's a multiplier on the on the cost
okay so there's a there's a
there's a
penalty any other questions or concerns
from council
okay
moving on
i want the record to reflect please mr
president that no council members
were
the code enforcement if they would have
to recuse themselves right
all right so we are on to first reading
of ordinance 7-21 to amend section
682.22
all the animal fecal matter
required to eliminate the requirement to
carry equipment introduced by mr markham
oh it's such an intriguing title fecal
matter yeah i always laughed
i feel like to properly introduce this
legislation
i need to tell you a story about some
paranormal activity that happened in
bexley and that is uh
last week at the uh
council retreat our mayor talked a
little bit about
you know perhaps we should go through
the code and find you know in some
instances where maybe it need cleaned up
cleaned up
uh
it was his word now mine and uh
and then
hours before that without any
communication at all i had actually sat
down and gone through and kind of
started to look through some of the
animal code as i as i tend to do i've
been on council for six years now and
you know i have a little hoppy hobby of
going through some of the animal
ordinances here and so uh disposal of
animal fecal matter required
6.8.22 i just thought that this looked
very awkward and unnecessary so i made
an amendment here to eliminate the part
b that requires the owner
or a person
walking their animal to have have in
his possession which is also not quite
fair because if it's female
a wood plastic or metal device
or other container for the purpose of
picking up and disposing of fecal matter
i think if we eliminate that we are left
with section a which properly defines
the law which is in bexley we expect you
to clean up after your animals
so no more animals walking stop
compressing
no more
yeah you can't be
pulled over and
you have to produce uh only in september
a wood
plastic or metal device a device
exactly
um
any questions or comments about this i'm
sure
maybe there are a couple
i have a question
yes mrs lamke
i want to say this with a straight face
we can't tell
that's right
um so how does the fecal matter get
cleaned up if you don't have any of
those items in your possession
i guess what i'm saying here it really
doesn't matter now most people will
carry wow yeah it really it's not a it's
not a legal issue i think how it happens
but i think most people carry a plastic
bag with them or or something like that
but uh
i don't know that they should be
required to have
because you know show something at any
time they have an animal like see we're
expecting you're gonna have something we
just don't need it to be
one of those items so
the mayor and i debated about this for
probably a longer time than than is
healthy really and and he did already
make
an edit on this but one of the things
that i said for instance let's just say
let's just say
someone here is walking their dog
and they and they don't have anything
they don't have a plastic bag or or
whatever right and that happens i have a
little thing sometimes i look and it's
it's run out i don't have any or
whatever and my my dog poops on
something or you know the yard or
whatever like that
really all i'm required to do is clean
it up but i can go back home and and get
something and come back and clean it up
i'm still complying with the law just
because i didn't have a plastic bag on
me or something like that i think i'm
still complying as long as
it gets cleaned up is would be the new
reading of this as well okay
uh and my last just comment is uh if
we're trying to make the code gender
neutral um there might be
a quick edit or two to add to add to it
i think we have done that though haven't
we oh no there is still a his left in
there that's fine yeah
[Music]
well that actually it's national women's
day so the gift here is that only dudes
can get prosecuted
yeah turns out which i feel like should
be an affirmative defense
[Laughter]
yes mr marcelino if we're being picky do
we need to have in a sanitary manner
i mean it doesn't really matter how you
pick it up it's not a problem with you
and if we're getting rid of the other
things it's just a discussion point you
can think about it for the second reason
i have used a leaf leaves do work
mr president
yes
um
i i just want to commend you because um
in the spirit of
like not over legislating we did discuss
that if you forgot like a bag or
something that maybe you should be
required to like
vociferously wave your hands and say i'm
coming back
to further bolster your point as well
like a lot of people have compostable
bags which technically are not compliant
right i do carry a compostable bag so
you're breaking the law yeah i am
currently breaking the law
it's a sanitary compostable bag though
yeah
i mean that's a good point right that's
why this is yeah still again another fix
mr klinger did you have a question
just
confusion a senate a compostable bag is
against the law well it's against the
law now because it's not plastic
it's not wood plastic
oh
i got you okay
anyway
yeah this is this is serious legislation
but it's pretty brief i think it should
be pretty simple
any more questions if not i will let mr
fishel move us along all right
um now we are into first reading
resolution 1-22 confirming the mayor's
appointments of members to the
architectural review board the citizens
review board the recreation board and
the board of zoning appeals and planning
introduced by ms robinson
i'm happy to announce that the word
fecal matter is not mentioned at all in
this resolution um this actually is a
resolution that will not yet yeah the
night is young um that will allow us to
fill some um
terms that have expired midterm i'm
going to hand this over to the mayor and
he's going to walk us through some of
these appointments a little more in
depth
let's call this the mat mcp coordinates
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the
which i'll get to in a second so um yeah
often this happens that during the year
members maybe they take a different job
or they they move and are no longer able
to serve on boards or commissions so
openings come up we've been um
advertising these positions for several
months um
and
kind of waiting to have
selections all put together to put one
uh resolution in front of you so
um the architectural review board
opening is actually created because we
have a member from bzap sorry from arb
that we are going to put in the open b
zap spot which opened up a spot on the
arb
so mr steele actually has expressed
interest in this position for many years
now
and
uh
there's now an opening and um it uh
it would behoove us i think to take take
his skills into account now i'm not
going to give introduction to everybody
i'm realizing because we are going to
have them come speak with you um so i'll
i'll try to be faster than i just was uh
crb uh is a
do you want to do a little intro at
least yeah okay dave coleman who is a um
in personnel with the federal office to
the public defender
so he does hr and personnel work but he
used to work for columbus city attorney
his office has done mediation work
and has a really excellent background
for the position i think
catherine gravel
used to help out at the white house
health policy section
um so she has a little bit of experience
in health for board of health
ali d'angelo
works for the ohio department of
education has the recreation programming
experience and has a master's in public
administration
for the rec board
um tim
pachenko
is the general manager for the columbus
crew so he has some um athletic
experience
and
matt gets to choose which of those two
would be filling his seat
i just
and then keith hall who is currently on
the air b
you recently met him he's a recent
appointee if you don't you guys are not
in but he's the one who does stadium
design i think that's as jen and i were
talking i was like i was trying to
describe to explain you remember right
but i was also
explaining that um so those are the
points as usual
we are
it's embarrassment of riches in terms of
the amount of the residents who step
forward and or get recruited
um and uh so i'm really honored to be
able to put these names forward and look
forward to you guys meeting
them those who you've not met yet
and just to be clear they will be coming
um over the course of the next two
council meetings so we have a chance to
meet them before before we vote on this
and i echo your
sentiments uh we are so lucky to have so
many incredibly talented people in our
community so thanks for uh for putting
this together
any questions or comments from rest to
council
the resume folder is going to be emailed
to you soon which will have everyone's
resume so we'll just send a link to that
so you can look through them
mr fishel
well i understand is the end of the all
the ordinances on the agenda other than
the tabled ordinances i understand that
perhaps there might be a
something going on with ordinance 12-21
which is tabled
action on table ordinance yes um before
i do that
um the mayor to ask him whether or not
um
he thinks that we should also take c off
the table uh 24-21 as well
um
to the extent that we can cover the info
on c with b i think we're probably okay
just that's fine not formally to take it
off okay so we'll just take ordinance
okay then i would like to make a motion
please to take coordinates 1221
off the table
second
second by mr klingler
mr mcpeak
do we need a roll call or just you know
just your voice that's fine all in favor
aye aye aye all opposed same
so um i'm going to turn this over to the
mayor in just a second um but i believe
that he sent us an email out i mean this
is sort of
this piece
is just allowing us to in the future
set up
aggregation with our city
um
we
are not going to do that
at this time because the energy
uh situation in the world is really at a
crisis and i'm gonna let um yeah yeah
think
i saw that i saw that look
at klingler so i just want to go ahead
um
and and had we been going to get into
this more in depth i would love for you
all to just
hang on to that document that i shared
with you a while back and i will make
sure that you get a heads up if we
should feel like this is something we
want to do in the future
all those acronyms and um numbers and
such are important for all of us to
review before we do this but um
mayor
thank you um so actually we we do
currently have an aggregation plan of
operation and governance um
relative to gas
um so it's it's in place already
um we don't have one that's relative to
electric now we don't have gas
aggregation in place um it's been a
while since we have
um but the point is in order to to
effectuate the gas aggregation we had to
first have a plan of operation and
governance so this is a framework by
which we can enact that aggregation
program it's part of the part of this
the steps that are necessary to get to
the point where we pass
forward an aggregation program which is
the
next ordinance that remains on the table
and we'll stay on the table for now
we figure because we've been talking
about it for so long we should go ahead
and get that plan of operation
governance in place it does not
prejudice council in the future from
changing the plan of governance
if council wishes to
it's a fairly
basic i think framework
some of the key
pieces of it are that
we have
as we've talked about many times the
ability to opt out at any time from the
from a pro from an electrical
aggregation program that's kind of the
most important piece to tell you the
truth because it other than that it
tracks pretty closely with the state
statute in terms of
some of the basic requirements of an
aggregation program it doesn't specify
who the operator would be it doesn't
specify where we buy it from for how
long any of that stuff that all gets
later on decided
and ratified by council um so
the uh
the thought here is because
this falls off the table automatically
as of tomorrow
um we should go ahead and pass it
and then we'll be
in a position where in the future if we
choose to to move forward with the
aggregation product itself we'll be able
to do that
questions
it means basically i'm sorry it's
basically a placeholder is what it is
but to get it in place now so that if if
and when when or if council and the
mayor decide to move forward with
aggregation then we have the governance
part of it in place but not any details
that would come back before council
it might just be grammatical but do we
have the dates of the two public
hearings for the ordinance or do you
fill that in later
within the recitals yeah we need to we
need to fill those in
we have had them um
so we would need to go back to the
calendar and fill those in
is that something we could just do yeah
i mean so yeah that that's something we
could just do you don't have to have
that in there as long as we know what
they're going to be
what they're going to represent
mr klingler
do we need to change william harvey to
matthew mcpeek on the second page
yes we do
and more into
and approved on 2022.
yep
all right uh
if we take more than four and a half
hours discussion here we're in trouble i
think right
you tell me what racks are
lori and you have some action then on
that yes please i would like to make a
motion to approve ordinance 12 21
merchants approved by councilman fibel
second
second by jen robinson
mr mcpeak
oh i'm sorry
no yeah i've got a thank you
we do have the space for public comment
here
that's all right
we need to know that you're you're right
to do that you're right to make that
motion at me yeah mr mcpeak mr klingler
yes miss bible yes mr markham yes
massage yes miss robinson yes miss
lampke yes mr marcelino yes
motion passes 7-0 thank you very much
before we move on or maybe we should
have already done this but do you guys
want a brief update on the
aggregation we were supposed to have aep
here should we just do that as untabling
the next ordinance
what's the proper
okay give us a hint so we were going to
have as we discussed ap here um
and
the
auction for
the next price to compare is occurring
either today or tomorrow
um so they're going to have more new
market information but coupled with that
laurie and i discussed this
back and forth several times
um not surprisingly the market is moving
rapidly in energy it seems like probably
the worst time in our recent history to
create any sort of a static price model
so
um we we feel it'll probably be many
months before we circle back and talk
about this again
long story short
until there's some sort of stability
because now now it's just not gonna be
the time
and that's that
thank you
that's you mr fisher no that was it well
that is it for that this is oh
do you do this party
i mean i can
i'm new here i forget these things
zoning and development committee
matt klingler
there's a arb meeting this thursday that
was all
thank you sir
recreation and parks committee jessica
assad
yes um wanted to remind
our seniors that they can apply to
become a member of the senior center for
just 25 for an annual membership by now
going to www.bexleyrec.com
if
you don't have access to do that you can
still make the call to bexley park and
rec but now you can go online as well
i also wanted to make a quick
announcement um on brian drewery's
behalf
on march 19th there will be a launch
event by the bexley minority parents
association it's going to be an art
auction that he put together and i do
see this being very successful
um
it will be held at our bexley library so
for those who can participate please do
but if you happen to be out of town as
bexley schools will be on spring break
don't worry it will be an online auction
from march 19th through the 26th there
are some beautiful pieces and members of
our community that we all know
how talented our community is and so
some of those artists have supported
this
some beautiful lovely pieces all
proceeds and funds will go to
scholarships for our bexley high school
seniors
to find out more information or to bid
on some of those pieces you can go to
bexleyminorityparents.org
thank you that sounds exciting
strategic committee john robinson
i have no report today
thank you
service and environmental committee
lorienne fibel
um i don't have anything to report um
concerning they serve as an
environmental piece of it but i would um
like to mention that um the bexley um
celebrations and events crew is really
working hard to get um the
plans for the fun this summer so stay
tuned i'm hoping we will announce our
movies very soon um
also i would really love it on today
being
international women's
day to
invite you to join me via zoom tomorrow
night as we are going to be celebrating
one of our own
um she uh was
miss america
1972.
so this is the 50th anniversary of
her doing this and it's she has a very
interesting how she got to do it some of
the concerns her mother had around doing
it
and some of the interesting things that
she has moved forward and doing in her
life one of which was she um
she became someone who was very helpful
with um some of our um
service men and women who came home with
head traumas and so she's and she's a
very talented person so
join me as we talk and celebrate
everything bexley laura laurel lee
shaffer tomorrow night and lorraine how
do they find the link to that or where
they find that information
uh you know what the library is
sponsoring this she has written um a
book um that's related to her
um trip to vietnam when she was
you know for her year of reign so anyway
sounds like she's got a lot of great
stories to tell she does have a lot of
good stories so
excellent thank you
uh finance committee monique lamke
um just a couple quick things first i
wanted to thank the members of council
and the mayor
for coming to the area chamber of
commerce event last week they were
touched beyond belief that that we
supported them and it was not only
it was a great time as well we hope that
there'll be other opportunities for
for city leadership to support a very
active chamber as well as our businesses
i want to give a shout out to jen
robinson for a great council retreat
if we ever have more time on our
calendars it would be great to do that
more than once or twice a year i felt
like there was a really good exchange of
information so
kudos to you jen
um i wanted to also share that the
bexley woman's club is partnering with
the city to
to find ways to support residents of
ukraine i know that we've all had very
heavy hearts
a lot of questions this week so the
bexley women's club has put together
a donation drive for items
in conjunction with the church in grove
city
and we're also putting together a link
with the ways that you can financially
contribute so if there's any residents
that would like to either donate items
or donate funds
we're going to work with the city and
making sure that that information is
chaired i know that this
community is beyond generous and i think
that there's a lot of folks including
our girl scouts
who would like to support our folks
overseas so more info on that coming
shortly and then finally as laurie anne
mentioned today's international women's
day we are so fortunate i feel so
fortunate that i get to serve with three
other amazing women on our city council
so thank you to the residents and the
electors of bexley for making sure that
we know how women are valued in this
community
and a report thank you monique
safety and health committee sam arcelino
nothing related to safety or health and
uh i apologize if there have been plans
that nobody's keeping me into but i
don't think we mentioned
a state championship that was won
recently um and are they getting i just
want to congratulate the the team from
brexit high school and i anticipate an
invite's coming but still it's
just happened so i just want to
congratulate them thank you so much sam
they have been invited and we are
excited to have them come to council
probably early april
uh meeting awesome i had i had their
picture on my update i neglected to give
them a shout out congratulations
thank you sam for remembering that
i think it's they're three-time state
champions now wow correct so how am i
impressive
give it a question no just one more
thing uh bexley bravo the invites went
out march 26th gets your get your
tickets
thank you sam thank you matt uh one more
time we'll extend an invitation to the
public to comment on anything you would
like all right
if you're not going to i will take a
motion to adjourn motion to adjourn
motion made by mr klingler all second
sagan and by
all in favor say aye aye
all opposed same