I think good to go
all right thank you call this meeting in
order the December 6 2022 meeting of the
city of council and Bexley Ohio uh as
always our thoughts are with the people
of Ukraine we celebrate the progress
this week as well Mr McPeak how are you
yeah
good missed I missed you buddy
can you give us the Roll Call
we're here Buddies
all right
um whamkey
Bible here Marcelino present Assad here
Robinson here Markham here and Klingler
here and I think we probably need to
make a motion for uh Ms lamke's absence
to be excused tonight still moved can I
get this uh second second all in favor
say aye aye aye please rise for the
Pledge of Allegiance
and to the Republic for which it stands
one nation under God indivisible liberty
and justice for all
well I feel like the joke that I've been
making about people showing up to watch
the budget uh really never gets old does
it all these people not not to me it
doesn't anyway Mr uh mayor of misad I
believe we've got some special guests
right yes
if I could call
boys
and coaches
thanks for coming out tonight
so as you guys all know many of you
enjoyed uh following our our varsity
boys soccer team all the way to the
state finals at lower.com field we are
all so proud of you guys it was amazing
watching you guys progress it was an
electric atmosphere at the final game
and we all really enjoyed being there to
cheer you on so we have a proclamation
for you tonight
whereas the hard-working and talented
athletes and coaches of the Bexley High
School boys soccer team recently
concluded an outstanding season
and whereas in 2022 these athletes
achieved an 18-4-1 record a distinction
of many coveted titles including the
indoors in cup MLS League champions
District Champions and Regional
champions the Lions rounded out this
season with a run at the state
championship in early November
and whereas the Triumph and excitement
of this season spread quickly through
our community and the team entered
lower.com field for the State final with
a large and boisterous group of lions
fans cheering it on I think we have
outnumbered like two to one I believe
the other side
Bonnie this is called twenty three
thousand three thousand fans and whereas
we were all incredibly proud of these
athletes for their tremendous form of
performance tireless work the successes
they have achieved this year are
inspiration to us all therefore we are
here to proudly honor and celebrate your
team and their outstanding season and
your creative Excellence I also want to
mention that was one hell of the game
and uh whatever you say the way it all
came down at the very end and over time
you guys are winners total winners in
our books really appreciate all you have
done in your leadership through the
season so congratulations guys
foreign
do you guys have any anything you'd like
to say to council
makes speech prepared I think
yeah
our speakers out six right okay
we'll just stand up this time so right
yeah
they're a lot taller than to me so uh
thank you
so apparently some of our council
members okay nobody blamed for like the
last several seconds
thank you thank you
Russells
congrats coach
okay before you guys get out of here as
a former parent or I'm not a former
parent I am a parent of a former player
and with all of you guys who are here I
have to say like we talk a lot I think
in this community about moments that
transcend and you know it can happen in
different places when you're least
expecting it but I have really never
been more proud of a group of people
than and I think the whole Community
felt that way we were all there cheering
you on it didn't matter women lose or
draw and we're going to call it a win as
we've all doubled down with it's so
exciting to see you guys carry the way
carry yourselves the way you did and
that moment was so much bigger than
soccer it was about what it means to be
a teammate and a leader and to work
together to achieve a goal and I'm just
super proud of you guys so
congratulations and uh go uh celebrate
it and do it again next year
if I didn't tell you I am a former at JB
All-Star the soccer team so they're sick
there and watch it made me so proud and
you made history thank you all so much
good Workforce yeah thanks boys
thanks coach but Sam look how far you've
come you're you're now uh JV All-Star on
the city council
do we have any slips
that was awesome
all right
so we have resolutions with presenters
but I'll see presenters
a later start time
what do you want to do we could go ahead
and to administrative update security
like presence report City turn all right
let's do it uh we're going to move ahead
to uh the president's report
real quickly can I just yeah I would
love for that
okay exciting new stuff we we have said
to you if anyone has does anyone have an
iPad one of the iPads
so the iPads are set up uh the I the
city iPads are set up with the with the
Dropbox app and the agenda on Dropbox so
this won't really make as much sense if
you don't have that
um configuration
but we wanted to try a test run on what
it would look like uh to move post-civic
Clerk
and so there is a page on the website
called Council agenda test
and
you can see uh today's meeting
and
the agenda is here
of course now it won't even like
load
that looks great doesn't it this little
buggy we're figuring this out
um the agenda is there it can be it can
be downloaded and viewed I think where
it pops into a new window
before you just see it right there on
your system
and then all of the attachments
sorry I know I know are here in the form
of administrative updates ordinances and
resolutions presentations
so
um
if you wanted to take a look at that
concept it's on under the website under
Council agenda tests
and you can kind of see how well that
navigates
and then the other thing we can do is we
can share if you have a DropBox account
we can just share that folder with your
Dropbox account so much more natively
just loads on your computer at all times
so think about that because that could
be kind of handy because then you would
have access to all the attachments you
wouldn't have to think about uh you know
whether or not you have it on your
system so
um
do be patient with us because we have it
now we both have a Civic clerk agenda
and this Dropbox based agenda and we
tried to make sure they're both accurate
but it was a bit of a haul so
I will be drawing from the Dropbox for
everything and we'll see how well that
works the idea here is we would save
money on the Civic clerk license and
also in general I think it would just
actually be a little easier for us to
administer
um so if anybody has any objections to
the way this is generally speaking
working then let us know because we kind
of have to we don't want to have two
systems going all the time are we going
to run them both through the end of the
year is that the test or how long we can
do another week next week okay yeah yeah
right that sounds good we're on a month
to month right now through the end of
the year
sorta all the way
so with that Mr President yes
oh man I am sort of not ready to give
this president's report but uh I've been
kind of working at it almost to the day
uh with my uh Partners here uh John
Robinson and Stacy Grossman that I I
have these uh gifts here for you tonight
uh which I point out only because
um uh Stacy Grossman right here is the
one who created these and uh yeah right
you're right to give her a hand yeah
they're much more attractive than
anything I could have put together and
uh when I saw them I said this is great
I'm going to get these and I'll give
these to the city council members and
the rest of you guys for for the holiday
season and uh and it's and if Stacy had
just taken my money the president's
report would be over right now
but but she did not and she said I don't
want to take your money I want you to
have these and I want city council to
have these and everything like that and
then I said well Stacy I'm gonna uh I'm
gonna make a um
a donation then to the Anti-Defamation
League because Stacy and I have been
talking because obviously I've been
thinking and talking about the uh you
know the wave of anti-Semitic uh remarks
that have been echoing around the media
and it just it to me I tell you I just I
you know I'm not gonna curse again
and I'm not gonna cry but I I really
it's it's just it's really upset me I
I've had trouble resting I've had
trouble sleeping and I just feel like
the normalization of you know of hate
speech and uh uh is really uh I think
it's really gotten to me
um the absence of resp of a strong
response from elected officials really
bothers me deeply and I can't do
anything about that to some extent but I
can do something about it here in city
council and uh John Robinson and I spoke
today and we spent a lot of the uh
the morning talking about a resolution
uh to uh to show our stance as a
community and refute anti-semitic uh
comments anti-semitic actions
uh I just feel like you know
the way that this is being kind of uh
somewhat dismissed a little bit somewhat
minimalized you know the the rhetoric
that's violent that's threatening that's
just really horrifying it's sort of like
you know the kitchen fire and if it's
the kitchen fire if you don't put it out
burns down the house and so I just feel
like we have a responsibility to do our
part in trying to put out that fire and
uh Stacy do you want to come up here and
and say something I know I know uh we've
got this resolution that we're going to
put up here but you and I talked this
morning as well and I know
um we also want to get some input from
the Jewish Community here in Bexley and
we have that maybe coming up to uh to
talk a little bit about that in in
moment you don't have to come up you
look like you don't want to come up
yeah
spreading the word but you know one
thing that I was extremely grateful for
somebody to do this morning because this
wasn't an inside job you know that was
like the beauty of it because you
started so you know
yeah and I think I think for us as a
city council this is maybe an important
yeah an important thing to do uh Jen do
you wanna do you have some
you want to throw something in there
I don't know that I have a whole lot to
offer other than I think that this is
this is something that's really
important we
we live in a community that is
very very supportive of our Jewish
neighbors
um but when you get outside of our
community it is not that way
um I was sharing with Troy earlier that
my son who's a freshman at OU has for
the first time in his life been dealing
with some really nasty anti-semitic
incidences and it's just it's
heartbreaking to me so my first response
to Troy in in our conversation was you
know how great it is that we don't
actually need this here but that we
absolutely should do this here because
we have neighbors and friends and family
members who are experiencing things when
they are not in this city and even
though we aren't necessarily that way
here it's important for us to stand up
and and to say something
um I agree with Troy the kind of
normalization of all of this and this
kind of couching things in comedic ways
and just telling people to kind of you
know just let it roll it's fine you know
just you know don't feel feel it so much
and then the lack of response from
um from our our elected officials is
it's just Troublesome and it's it's
um It's upsetting so I'm super super
happy that Troy reached out to me and I
love that Stacy's on board and I just
I'm really happy that we once again our
community is stepping up and saying
what's happening in this country isn't
okay and um I just I'm super
appreciative of you Troy for for
stepping up and doing this taking the
reins on this thanks so we've also kind
of spoken a little bit uh maybe about
adding some activities and events along
with this to kind of reinforce not just
the words but some actions in the
community and we also have maybe an idea
of expanding uh this resolution in ways
that maybe historically have never been
done in the city so we will get back to
you on that after we check in with some
other parts of the administration any
questions or comments on on this is a
first reading by the way I should
mention that
and thrown it under the last minute
I should probably actually technically
read it for this record you should oh
yeah you should that's right so we have
a first reading of resolution number
12-22 a resolution unequivocally
unequivocally condemning the recent
ryzen anti-semitic violence and
harassing targeting Jewish people and
standing in solidarity with those
affected by anti-Semitism and for other
purposes
thank you now it seems like we have no
comments or questions we can move on to
the City attorney report
no report this evening and then we can
move to the auditor's report
no report and then we can move on to the
administrative report we can certainly
do that for Dr krantus here if you are
if you're ready or you're waiting
sounds great then you'll get to enjoy
our administrative updates
or listen to just have to listen to it
that's that's Joy is another yeah all
right so
first up uh Mr Price Recreation and
Parks update
foreign thank you mayor I don't I don't
have anything to add to the written
report but happy to answer any questions
any questions for Mr Price
right thank you
by the way the tree lighting I'm not
going to let you go out that easily the
tree lighting was fantastic great new
layout and you you invited every single
Choir in Bexley so the turnout was
turnout was extra it's great to turn out
extra extra which was great which was
really great we're gonna add Harmony
next year and so we're just gonna just
keep
I love it okay next up Mr Bayshore
service department update thanks mayor I
don't I do not have anything to add to
my report tonight but happy to answer
any kind of questions
you guys are getting off really easy
here
I could come up with some stuff but I
won't
um
Mr Hale finance department update
no report any questions from Mr Hale
Chief Lewis
nothing to answer any any questions for
the chief
wow okay okay
almost made it
um Chief Lewis if you don't mind just
elaborating a little bit in your report
on the holiday safety reminders for the
community
so you know this time of the year
obviously there are a number of things
that
um come up from scams and and
individuals being targeted some of the
other things we're seeing with packages
being left on porches the number of
theft and this time it it definitely
increases so just sending out those
reminders to the community about trying
to secure those packages even working
with neighbors on getting those secured
immediately
I'm sure we're gonna put that in the
blast right
uh yes and actually that's been in our
um that was in our newsletter it's going
out to every household so okay
and then just second question because I
love any collaboration with art
um I love seeing that the Bexley High
School Arts students are working with
murals with the PD can you give us a
little bit more information on that sure
so today I met with two of the art
teachers at Bexley High School
um the idea is to invite our students
into the police department and give them
a blank canvas so we've got a 15 by 10
blank area
um at one of the landings and it's
really going to be community and Public
Safety oriented I want the students to
have the creativity to create and design
and to um they can also generate some of
their service hours that they need
so we'll be working closely with them
and I think it's just another way to
engage our students invite them into the
police department SO waiting to hear
back from them this is just a very New
Concept and excited about the
opportunity to to interface with them so
that was step one step two is they're
going back meet with their students have
that initial conversation I'll then go
and meet with them and we'll talk about
what next steps are and and what that
Vision will be I'd like this to be an
annual type program where the Juniors or
seniors will come in and they'll find
Space within the police department and
I'd love to expand that in the community
foreign
all right
um
I have a brief update
uh for you just a reminder that pancake
breakfast is this weekend this Saturday
correct is that right
um and we also have the menorah lighting
coming up on the 20th at Drexel Circle
and lots of other stuff in between
so make sure you guys have that on your
calendar
a couple updates throughout here
actually uh it's been a pretty busy past
few days here so these are pilford
correct directly from the blasts four
things Fridays so if you've read those
already you've already read these sorry
for duplicating
um also I wanted to thank councilwoman
Robinson we we hosted the Maryland
Mallard third grade uh classes here for
my council meeting
uh in which they uh they discussed and
voted on having dedicated bike paths
throughout the city it passed
resoundingly seven to zero so despite
the objections of the auditor about the
potential cost implications
it's uh nonetheless it's still past
for it as was Brecken parks and the
police the police chief and the mayor it
was just a real resounding uh and then
the you know we do this so that the kids
have to decide if they're for or against
something to kind of split up and the
kids who are against it you could tell
they're kind of like what are we why are
we against this like let's come up with
some reasons they were struggling so
it's always a great uh super cute event
and uh we had uh we also just had a
lunch today with thanking the Bexley
Bloomers
um for their work at Jeffrey
um you will be happy to know they
Quantified the financial impact of their
donations yes uh I believe I believe it
was somewhere 24.
there you go that's awesome there you go
so thank you to the bloomers
and
I I want to point out that uh in
addition to all the other things he does
amazingly well Mike Price if you can see
what's happening there he's actually
standing in front of a fire truck
directing that's exactly what's
happening
while Santa's like what are you doing
man so uh anyway
that is my upset any questions
yeah
I'll print it out for you
okay I could use them in the morning
don't be doing it he'll be at casting
him and Brian
walk to and from school
very effective
Dr crane we can is it okay if we start
or do we need to wait for manicure
because otherwise we'll get into our
budget and you don't want to be around
for that oh God yeah no have you got my
I do yeah let me pull them up here
what's that should I read this I'm Rob
crane I've been here before
unfortunately for you
um I'm gonna talk a little bit about the
history of this we'll be talking about
flavored tobacco issues we made this
presentation to comma uh the central
Ohio Mayors and Managers Association
Ben was there also uh your own and my
hero Amy Adkins was there
she was talking about rapid six of
course but uh it reminded me that over
this last uh two and a half or two and
three quarters years
more people have died from tobacco
than die from covet
you're thinking about the amount of
Sturm and drum they
terrific discussions we've had the money
we've spent the time effort and
horribleness we've gone through with
covid it's really
under the weather that you see anything
about tobacco
the last excuse me for the last um I've
been talking too much
the last year in Columbus we've been
working very hard to persuade Columbus
city council to look at the problem they
face with tobacco targeting especially
of minorities
menthol
has been an issue which has been
discussed in great detail because about
85 percent of African-Americans use
mentalized cigarettes if they smoke
uh 20 years ago that was 15 percent
and the the industry has really focused
on them
here in Baxley is also the issue of
course of vaping and you've taken that
on to a degree because you don't allow
vaping
of flavored products already you led the
pack as it were
uh but we're going to talk a little bit
about how that goes and what it should
be and I'm going to pretend that I'm
Amanda and have these special products
to hold up here you should be here any
moment but uh oh thank you so much
that's so nice of you
can you have the next can I get the next
slide
then suffered through this before of
course this is
none other than
one of your old favorite
Rocky and Bullwinkle shows and why I
bring it up of course is the next slide
has the best time machine ever the way
back machine
this is way back to the poor of your
time and Mr Peabody
gave a lot of advice to Paul about how
to make this ride work perfectly
let's go to Bexley in 2004 next slide
I think I came to you second after
Grandview
and asked to consider
looking at the data on secondhand smoke
looking at the data on employees who are
exposed uh getting rid of second-hand
smoke for all places of employment and
workplaces including
bars and restaurants
now if you think this was a heavy lift
it's not even the same universe that was
controversial
this thoughtful Progressive group
struggled with it
but you came to the conclusion
that your employees
and bars and restaurants should be
protected and I believe I recall
correctly you voted 7-0
in the face of hundreds of phone calls
letters and absolute pandemonium from
the other side
you did this in conjunction with
Columbus and 12 other suburbs
you stood together this was the first
time in the entire Midwest
not a coastal region this has ever been
done before
but because we stood together it really
worked
two years later as you may recall the
entire state had a vote
an initiative put forward by the Cancer
Society to indeed make every place to
smoke free
R.J Reynolds put five million dollars
into a constitutional amendment to try
to overturn that at the same time and
still the people figured it out voted so
the entire state two years later after
what you wrote
going into the Ohio a lot as well
fast forward again to 2016.
you were the first city that we came to
looking at the vaping and nicotine issue
problem asks you to consider could you
please raise the age
from 18 to 21.
again a few cities in the coast had done
this California Hawaii New York City had
done this Boston places around there
nowhere in the Midwest
we came to you and asked you would you
really consider doing this
the vape shops
the convenience stores only which you
have two that you are selling
said this can't be done this is terrible
you got calls from Columbus from
everywhere saying this is a bad idea
we need this demographic otherwise we'll
go under
just like the bar owner said it in 2004
that was not the case
they didn't go under the still bars and
they're still vape shops but you stood
fast
7-0 I remember that raised the age 21.
what happened two years later
the entire State the legislature raised
the age of 21 why because we had so many
cities around the state that the well
look a minister just in time
I made a trade we'll talk to her a sec
that the the retailers said this is not
fair the competition's not fair we've
got to level this out so the whole state
went to 20 21 and 2019 a year after that
the entire nation went to 21.
again with the very same legal language
that you helped write
next slide
Amanda has been working her tail off she
has no tail now
um
working on Columbus leading its effort
to expose the targeting of kids and I'll
let her take it from here perfect I know
hello it's quite the entrance
um so speaking of working my tail if I
just came from another meeting talking
about this exact same thing so I'm the
show and tell portion of the evening
um I'm going to pass over a couple
products uh this way if that's okay with
you
um so you can see some of what we're
going to talk about up close in person
we can go to the next slide
they actually already that's right so
some of you know all this but I think
it's a good reminder to understand what
we're talking about so
um hi my name is Amanda Turner um I'm
here as the executive director of the
preventing tobacco addiction Foundation
but more importantly I'm here as a mom
um that's my son George
um I'm also the granddaughter of a
tobacco farmer from South Carolina who
passed away when I was 10 years old from
lung cancer back then it was Un-American
to not smoke in the South but
unfortunately he was a lifelong smoker
and passed away from it but um today I'm
here as a mom because I've always
disliked tobacco but I fear it because
it's a very Innovative industry
um passing around a couple of products
that some of you are probably familiar
with given some out you've passed in the
past past in the city so these are
e-cigarette products next slide please
not sure who's trying
um these are the products that the
tobacco industry has quickly converted
to when they start seeing a decline in
sales of their combustible products so
they give you some perspective of what
you have in front of you make sure you
smell it don't use them but do smell
them it'll smell like you're in Bath and
Body Works it will not smell like your
traditional tobacco that we all grew up
knowing so this is a traditional like
pack of cigarettes this is 20 cigarettes
it's equivalent to 200 Puffs worth of
nicotine
this is menthol it's actually a flavored
that would be we would ask for you to
look at removing from the market this is
a product called Breezy bar it's lemon
mint it is advertised as 6 000 Puffs so
if I'm doing my math correctly this
little device that I can just hide in my
hand is equivalent to 30 of these
this is what kids are using this cost me
about 19 from the gas station
um what bothers me the most about my
show and tell and the products I have
um not beyond the smell but when I
purchase these products I think I
purchased maybe like three e-cigs and a
pack of cigarettes they gave me a free
gift with purchase so the products you
have in your hand are five percent
nicotine this is six percent nicotine
they give this to me for free and this
was not because he had a surplus it's
because this is a marketing tactic
you want to make sure I have more
nicotine to get me hooked even more next
slide please
so what we know in Ohio is that 50 of
high school students will have tried
e-cigarettes or have tried e-cigarettes
30 percent of high school each students
use e-cigarettes and what's more
concerning is 12 of these middle
schoolers are using e-cigarettes as well
so again as a parent I am fearful of
these products because I don't think
kids truly know what they're using and
what they're trying next slide please
um
explracting Tim attracting them
um the first offender in this market was
Jewel that's the Pod you see there
that's the teal and black
um it's kind of an irrelevant product
right now because you can only get it in
Menthol and tobacco flavor and it's a
pod based system what you're gonna see
um are these disposable devices so all
the the items that you had in front of
your disposable devices next slide
please
and so this is just an example of a gas
station this is in my neighborhood I
have full disclosure I live in
Clintonville by Doula Bexley
um I uh actually considered moving here
um all right well thank you it's not
still yeah still there uh so this is a
gas station this is just one gas station
this is the whole bottom row all of
those things you see in the containers
are e-cigarettes that's where when I was
growing up that's where candy used to be
um and now that's where you have
e-cigarettes you if you looked closer
all the images would be you know
um this one's Mr fog you know has
raspberry and berries on it there's
actually one of the products I sent
around it's called bras malos I think
that's a blue raspberry marshmallow I
think
um I've even seen products that are
called cereal milk I have another juice
in here that's um called Swedish I
imagine it means Swedish fish so I don't
think that's attracting you guys I think
that's attracting the cute little ball
you saw up front there's also uh
cigarillas that I passed around as well
next slide please
um these are basically cigarettes back
in 2009 the FDA said you cannot sell
cigarettes and flavors Beyond Menthol so
what they did is they then wrapped uh
cigarettes with a tobacco leaf and
called it a cigar and made it smaller
um if you dared smell into those
packages it smells like strawberry
libraries and grapes you get a hint of
tobacco but these are also flavored
products that we're talking about 250
unique flavors next slide please
so in conclusion flavors is what sets
the hook and nicotine reels them in next
slide
and we just ask that you consider that
poison should not taste like peaches and
I would pass it back to Dr crane
I'm going to bore you with one slide six
and this is it and first of all what a
good job we actually have done over the
last 20 years this is high school
seniors
because of increased taxes because of
raising the age because of counter
marketing because of all the things that
we've done to persuade kids successfully
that smoking tobacco is gross and stupid
we have knocked down by fourfold their
use
until next slide
Along Comes a vape
in a matter of six or seven years
they successfully through tremendous
Innovation you have to you have to kind
of give them kudos for this Innovative
product they put on the market reversed
all of our effort
we're up against an Innovative industry
we have to innovate as well tobacco 21
was an attempt to work on the supply
side
here in Ohio it's not been very
successful we grade all we've done 41
states to raise their age our group has
our with other groups as well
41 stage stage 21 we're still working on
nine states the federal government of
course is 21 but they don't don't
enforce the federal law
we grade all the states and Ohio gets an
F minus
because they simply don't enforce at all
and when we uh had a problem with
Columbus city council considering
Toledo's Vape exemption procedure just
this last week we sent kids up to ask
say 20 places
and they walked in to check to see if
kids they would have the IDS checked out
of the 20 14 sold
and every place had Vapes that were not
supposed to be there so that's an issue
that we have to deal with the supply
side and the demand side next
so this is what's happening in Columbus
and we've I think sent Ben or maybe all
of you the kind of model legislation
that involves Franklin County Public
Health
retailers
would not be allowed to sell
flavored products and that includes
menthol cigarettes you don't have this
ban now
getting rid of menthol cigarettes takes
30 to 40 percent of the cigarettes off
the shelf
this will cause people to quit some will
simply switch but many will quit and
will save many lives
and then the small cigars which tons of
kids have gone to and they're used as
blunts as you will to use for other
purposes marijuana and most specifically
will be gone
really importantly this is done only by
the health department
only at the retail level the police are
never involved
this has not stop somebody on the street
grab their cigarettes none of that
stores would simply be licensed and
you'll have to Grant Franklin County
Public Health a licensed renewal process
and those stores
if they sell would get a warning and a
fine then a suspension
so they couldn't sell for seven days or
21 days whatever Franklin County Public
Health sets us their policy and that
gets their attention
the typical convenience store which you
have too sells 650
000 every year of tobacco products
any suspension they pay attention to
anyway the enforcement again is just by
Franklin County Public Health
uh Dublin and Worthington Columbus
already have this tobacco retail license
which you'll have to help create here we
have the language for that
which gives the power to Franklin County
Public Health to set a license they
collect a fee from the license and they
use that fee to do the enforcement
there's no cost
to the Sea of depth actually whatsoever
in fact you're really not involved
Beyond doing the legislation itself next
these are the local groups the local
groups that have signed on to this I
think you'd be hard-pressed to find a
single education or welfare or
or public health group that is not
signed on here in Columbus next slide
these are the National groups that have
signed on to getting rid of flavors
including Menthol and again you'd be
hard-pressed to find one that is not
signed on here
so what are we asked to give you I think
you're a step ahead of us but this is
we're asking everybody else next slide
I'm sorry I forgot one more thing I
forgot when we had this city council
Columbus about six weeks ago we brought
this up and of course the reporter
quickly glommed onto this can you run
this video for me
oops
try that again
go Kate
oops does Kate have sound
I could probably lip sync with her
what Kate is saying she's standing up
for Arlington is if you do this tobacco
ban in this flavor band in Columbus
there's definitely going to come up here
to Upper Arlington they're going to buy
here it won't do anything what's all
and I think it's because
then you get it ready she's so cute
doing this
ah not to worry
but I think it just it under underscores
the issue that we have to stand together
or we will fall apart
and the fact that you've done it every
single time uh suggested we can do it
and that's the reason that tobacco-free
kids the big National Organization has
put effort time and money into helping
us out do this you probably heard some
ads on TV next
what we're asking of the other Suburban
uh jurisdictions is to begin that
process of reaching out to the folks who
know don't believe thus
uh we just got done talking to Gahanna
they've had to install in every bathroom
in every elementary school middle school
and uh High School Vape detectors in the
bathrooms
because the problem is so rampant
the resource officers spend most of
their time collecting Vape products
I think you're blessed sure that you
don't have quite that problem it's still
an issue
and I think if you'll ask the folks that
no even in Bexley high school that this
is a challenge
with that our 10 minutes are up we're
done
questions
this presentation was great
um I have a my oldest is in eighth grade
I have a middle uh sixth grader and then
I have a third grader
my husband and I have had a lot of
conversations this last year with mental
health and then kids getting back to
their social settings of where have we
lost and I would love if you guys could
give me more insight on the education
piece with these kids you said yourself
you don't always believe that they know
what they're using
um I remember you know growing up with
uh dare you know just say no was a
popular thing Nancy Reagan you know did
a great job with a lot of those programs
so I would love to know more about how
we can get the education back in the
schools so these kids know more about
what is in front of them and they know
what it is
um I think you would want to lean on to
Franklin County Public Health because
they have programs and having a tobacco
retail license would help support those
programs that come back into the schools
um and if you have any nurses that could
get some education around it as well I
think showing them exactly what I showed
you tonight of this is what this
actually is this is what this you know
equals because if you go to a kid and
say do you smoke cigarettes they'd be
like gross no
but you know if you talk about what an
e-cigarette is and how it's the same
thing they might have it they might
click and have that understanding but
Franklin County Public Health has
programs for schools
Elizabeth DeLuca would be your contact
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yeah on social media yeah it's kids
giving it to kids it tastes like
strawberries try it and then of course
if it were just fidget Spinners or hula
Boos or one of the other fans that would
come and go but nicotine has kept that
yeah because a lot of the products they
showed they look like highlighters you
know you could just have it sitting next
and you probably wouldn't know what it
was which is really scary
I think it's also educating parents
um absolutely a lot of times people try
to put the blame on parents they're like
well they should you know regulate what
their kids are doing these are really
easy products to hide they don't smell
like cigarettes you can wake up and use
it you can you know puff it into your
shirt
um but helping parents at least
understand that these are bad they're
not safer than cigarettes so I think
it's two layers of education for sure
it's been a brilliant about being people
yep
I I was just going to say that I you
know I have a 16 year old and I I am
well aware of how rampant this is and
how scary it is and and
the research that I have done that you
know tells you what this does to a young
person's brain a young person's brain
whose frontal lobe is not quite finished
doing what it needs to be doing anyway
and then you know they become absolutely
positively addicted to it because it's
sexy you know it's it's something you
know everybody's doing and it's it's
really frightening yeah it's it's a it's
a frightening frightening idea of what
it the long lasting so I'm ready tell us
I'm ready and those those kids are ready
to aren't they here yeah those kids are
ready I mean and and what I applaud is
the fact that it's going to be Universal
because when Jen brought the vaping to
us most people
um Jen Robinson sorry she brought that
piece of legislation
to all of us and one of the things that
people kept saying is Well that's great
but they could just walk down the street
yeah
and and they can they literally can walk
down the street to get it
so if it's Universal the same stepwise
fashion
that we get Columbus and surrounding
area we get Cincinnati next
Cleveland started considering it once
you get a critical mass
then the retailers get nervous
what do you what do you do because I
just popped on Just for kicks and
Giggles onto Amazon and
you can
order it here I mean what do you how do
you how do you make that stop um I mean
I haven't been in a teenager in a really
long time but I mean the goal is that
you know it would be harder for a kid to
order online because hopefully they have
a parent that's regulating a credit card
that they have in their possession and
then they have to be delivered to their
house so that is where you'd have to
lean on parents to regulate their
child's ordering online habits but
unfortunately we cannot regulate online
sales at the local state or really
Federal level at this point but but we
will but we will yeah from your lips to
God's ears
online sales can be written if you look
at child porn I mean that took a while
to get there but now I think it's pretty
much every year
we can do this with the most dangerous
addictive product on the face of the
Earth
people take political will and that
starts with leadership yeah
and and the the companies are who are
not as
egregious about trying to sell the kids
when you do go online you have to enter
in like a social security number I mean
but they could go get that from their
parents right there's ways around all of
it
um but it's about removing that
convenience it's about changing the you
know fabric of the community and having
it be not just Bexley but everybody
everybody around us
I want to increase the choir already
yeah I think the chief has a question
yeah so um thank you so I'm not
um I guess for me to understand a little
better at the state level there are
investigative units who enforce underage
drinking who then Target establishments
who sell to underage individuals is
there not identity at the state level
that takes info because it sounds like
your campaign not grasps Roots but it's
targeting communities as opposed to a
larger state so tobacco 21 law was
passed in 2018 in the state
investigated the universe the same to do
the same kind of stand okay they do
about five percent of retailers per year
okay
we look at the model law you have to do
every retailer twice a year so 200 to
get good compliance so they're nowhere
near Franklin County Public Health
is going to charge retailers 400 to 500
a year so they can come in and do those
kind of undercover buys that need to be
done and also check for everything else
because they're already in there
checking
you know the flavor a hot sauce right
right right yeah
and to Rob's Point
um the state when they do their checks
there's no penalty on the retailer so
they just fire the clerk and then he
gets a fine and that's it so there's no
onus on the retail we have found we do
this across the country
um when you put the onus on the retail
to comply with the law and if there's a
risk of them losing their license to
sell this product they will follow the
law this isn't about a gotcha program
it's about check ID
follow the law that's really what it's
about and also let's set up selling
flavored products we introduced in a
survey of
prostate students and I'll be under age
Ohio State students 69 of the fake IDs
you can't follow the retailer for that
So eventually we'll have to go to real
ID
for buying yeah
substances which are not good for kids
that's your master plan 5.0 right oh
yeah we're not done I won't be back in
tears about something else I just want
to say how you know first off I want to
acknowledge that Jen Robinson was the
council member that brought the flavored
band of Bexley as a mom of high
schoolers and having seen exactly what
you guys have talked about but as the
administration who has to enforce that
law we really don't have the tools to do
it and so what I love about this
ordinance is that retail licensing
component in addition to a regional
approach and so we know that Columbus
has read this ordinance I believe
something very similar to it
um and I know that we've been
coordinating with city managers and
Mayors throughout Central Ohio there are
many other cities that are signed up to
this some cities are resisting and
they're not really into it but I think
overall there seems to be really good
Regional buy-in so I just want to I want
to reaffirm that and I don't know if you
guys have anything to add to that in
terms of just the status of other cities
this should pass through five six days
knock on wood knock on everything
yeah uh we've been engaged in
Reynoldsburg uh Hilliard we were in
Gahanna last week uh Westerville at the
beginning of January
um Grandview Heights uh Dublin and
Worthington was is under Columbus's
Public Health
um and even Pickerington we've talked to
them so I think we're engaged in 11 of
the Franklin County cities a lot of
things yeah
uh yeah just in general I think I
appreciate that but I think comma has
been a great group to help kind of
organize that and Galvanize that so and
we have a I think there's a press
conference tomorrow about the regional
effort yep so yeah so mayor Gunther is
going to do a press conference somewhere
to show his support and you're gonna be
speaking it as well so thank you okay
good I saw you on the agenda I heard
from them you were so I saw you on the
agenda
um and then uh yeah so we I use some
talking points don't worry
um and then Monday is when we're
hopefully going to see a vote by city
council they're also going to announce a
big initiative to address a smoking
cessation programs to help lift those up
and so they're going to do a press
conference around that so we're going to
see a lot of movement over the next
couple months and we're we hope Baxley
is one of the leaders in that movement
and so just you know our status this is
the second reading tonight we have a
three reading requirement
um unless Council would choose to
suspend that but it's so our third
reading would be next Tuesday
I just wanted to say thank you for
bringing this presentation here uh one
of the things I love is when we
originally brought the ordinance to for
consideration for Council um I wanted
Menthol to be included and that was the
one concession we have to make so
secretly not so secretly I'm very happy
to see this being presented
um I say it doesn't matter if Columbus
passes or not I think we have shown in
Bexar that we really care about this
issue and that we care about the health
and safety of all of our residents in
particular our kids who are just trying
to get through the day like every kid is
and making the best decisions that they
can and then the more obstacles we can
take out of their way uh to making the
wrong decision at the right time or at
the wrong time this is this is great so
um thank you thank you for being here
today and thank you for being so
passionate about this
I I actually I have a question if you
know when will Franklin County Public
Health be prepared to start enforcing
these ordinances uh they are ready to
work with you now okay um I think the
implementations up to the ordinance and
whatever that's why I asked because I
think it's it's a tricky thing because
um they need the retailer fee to staff
up their group to get the enforcement
going so I think it's kind of a um I
don't know what their threshold is to be
honest but um if you coordinate with Joe
Mazzola's office you'll probably have a
better idea of timeline but I would say
is sooner than later
giving retailers to 800. yeah they're
giving them a full year yeah
but in terms of your you know getting
the tobacco retail license off the
ground I mean you could do that like
within the first month or two because it
would just be about capturing who your
retailers are making sure you have their
information letting them know like so
that's what Franklin County Public
Health would do
and that's something that again there's
a note on the proposed amended one that
normally our ordinances are effective
within 30 days after signing after it's
signed by the mayor um this one we may
want to consider some more lead time I
don't think we need a full year for sure
but
um just something to think about tonight
or between tonight and next Tuesday
typically you know their stock is going
to be three months yeah I was thinking
90 days made sense yeah yeah
and you're already ahead of it with the
Vape law that you already did law
students
a lot of money
but it's important there's a lot of
lives involved that we're going to save
so don't let that money scare you
um and there is a fair and County Public
Health has that agreement drafted I
think there are other cities who have
already passed the retail license piece
of it is that correct uh Hilliards
probably already passed uh Reynoldsburg
will probably pass next week and why it
has in the process of either policy I
can't remember their schedule but yes
there's a couple that are already in the
process and technically Dublin has one
in place they probably just need to
figure out their implementation of it
got you yeah
I I feel like uh i o General Robinson a
comment here Jen what was that vote when
you brought in the uh
six to one oh yes I was the one vote I
am going to own up to that here not
because I am a proponent of uh tobacco
at all but you know I tend to be more a
uh a proponent of individual choice and
how I was a little bit troubled by some
aspects of of that law and the the
locality and the enforcement that sort
of thing I have to say uh as a parent
myself and over the last few years I'm
just uh troubled by the evolution of
nicotine
um I never used nicotine I don't use
nicotine now and it's because when I was
young nicotine tasted really bad you
know yeah yeah I remember my first
cigarette and it was my last cigarette
um and if I had had something that
tasted like what those things smell like
you know as they're going around I'm not
sure that I would have been able to uh
to keep myself from from uh being a user
or that product I also take into I I
believe strongly I think what lorianne
is saying here you know those kids
brains are not fully developed having
teenagers myself and seeing you know
their ability to make choices and and
that sort of thing I also know that you
know
the first hits of a drug you know at a
certain point in your life take cold you
know very strongly
um I am uh
really impressed with a lot of aspects
of the law the fact that it's it's a
unified effort unified action Health
Department enforced and getting some
reassurance from mayor Kessler that
we're not going to have to send our
police officers in there and we're not
going to have to worry about hopefully
kids just crossing you know over into uh
Whitehall or other local areas and
pressures on on our local businesses
like that so uh I feel like this is 80s
night you know we're talking about the
re-emergence of anti-Semitism and
tobacco smoking and stuff all these
things that I thought were probably when
I was 20 30 years old headed into
non-existence and now uh roaring back
but uh I will be a supporter of uh of
this measure thank you
thank you thank you thank you
appreciate it as you're leaving Mr
President if I can make one one thing
that occurs to me as we see these
material and it's a fringe concept but
the single-use nature of the products it
like kind of blows my mind a little bit
it's like that's the lot of material and
there's like in all seriousness there's
batteries inside of that and that's all
just getting Chucks and that so the
environmentalist to me is like not
environmentally friendly so there you go
one more angle
strike that from the record
thank you
don't put that out there
all right uh Mr official where are we
well I never read it
you need to read this so I'm going to
review as a second reading ordinance
number
48-22 in ordinance to create chapter 837
tobacco retail license and regulations
and to remove chapter 6 36.16 of the
codified ordinances illegal distribution
of cigarettes other tobacco products or
alternate nicotine products and it was
introduced by Mr Marcelino
thank you and then I think we're ready
for you to move on to the next uh
ordinance with presenters okay so you're
not going to mess with uh any amending
tonight do you want to talk maybe talk
about do we need to go ahead
I thought we were making all the changes
at one point and they're still our
outstanding changes so I thought we
should wait until the next yeah plus
hey
all right
so now we well actually somebody needs
to make a motion to remove the next
ordinance from the table
yes uh I will move to uh remove
ordinance 41 22 off of the table as I am
um filling in for
his land keep tonight you know can we
just stop also and applaud Miss Bible
for standing in tonight as our finance
charge yeah it's some heavy lifting
going on yeah I appreciate it I just
thrilled to be able to share with you
that Monique did well today excellent
for her daughter shared that with me so
excellent yeah thank you thank you and I
will second that motion you just made
um any just all in favor all in favor
say aye
aye aye
opposed same sign and so now another for
me to read there we go
such heavy lifting that I just can turn
it over to you right
uh yes I would be happy to make the
conversation from here so um
in front of you is the uh fourth draft
budget
and I'm gonna quickly tell you about the
changes in this they are relatively
minimal and Beecher you remind me if I
miss something we have some changes to
salary and wages that we'll be
discussing in an executive session so
that's coming up at the end of the
meeting I can't really go into that in
depth right now we also have
um a some changes to our capital budget
which I'm going to talk to you all about
right now and is attached to your agenda
and other than that
one minor change to the tech budget for
the
um scheduling and time keeping software
licensing agreement which was 1800 a
month
thank you
um so I'm going to pull up uh and by the
way I did send you a link to the Dropbox
folder in case you're on your laptop and
I'll check your email would like to
thank you so much Natalie I'd like to
take a look at
how you could maybe view it online a
little bit differently
um our updated capital budget detail and
and you'll notice that you have with you
with us today we have the chief the
service director and the rec director
to answer your hard-hitting questions
about the capital budget I know that you
guys had some questions
um specifically I think about some
equipment decisions
um so I'll first lead with some of the
changes to the capital budget
we have added a median curb lights on
Broad Street
and if any of you have been to
have noticed on the Livingston Avenue
project
there are some concrete meetings
and they are uh
relatively small concrete meetings in
Livingston but they have lights embedded
in the curb
and actually Grant sent me a
Grand Archer sent me a an image of this
to share with you guys
Okay so
I have to kind of scroll in here but if
you look at that section of the screen
if you're that's kind of hard to see on
this monitor
but hopefully he's not oh that's like
hopefully he's not sure oh he is driving
Chief can you talk to him about this
later but that's so so much happening
he's done he's it's actually not
technically in Bexley so it's legal
um
right it's a right-hand drive vehicle
he's a passenger sure so
um
oh that was you so if you look at the uh
these look a little bit like reflectors
but they're actually solar powered
lights
um
they work at night yeah how about that
yeah
so
if you haven't if you haven't seen them
check it out they're actually really
effective they really pop out and as you
know we we have our mediums hit kind of
frequently on Broad Street
um so seeing those I had this aha we
need those
so probably uh and we'll you know
no no no no no Andy was driving Grant
was filming
yeah
don't worry about it don't worry about
it
so anyway
that is a um
I had Grant researched those and we have
included them as a capital request for
the Broad Street median curbs can I ask
something about that you said that our
our meetings get hit a lot I wasn't even
aware of that how often is a lot is that
still happening pretty clean don't
exaggerate Andy let's just a lot
um
together
I'd say a couple times a month at times
it's always worse in the winter but and
is it just mainly in that eight yeah
yeah usually at night uh usually
includes couple metal spines uh trees at
times
they hit those big what are those those
that have the water box the water boxes
they hit those all the time I mean I've
reported that twice on the Bexley
whatever that's called it's what's
interesting is it's very different from
Main Street we don't have the same issue
on Main Street it's probably a function
of the speed
um the Main Street trees are a little
while they're more in general the street
is better lit and I think
right
and the trees were the trees have
matured more on Main Street because they
didn't get hit so early on so they are
therefore more visible and they're like
the lights that we have on the medians
are are on the trees but they aren't
that effective when the trees are small
so you rely on the trees to be larger
and they don't get larger I have a
question now are these typically just
hit and leave
because I don't see my I'm just curious
because I don't see the red coming in
from insurance companies usually it's
it's hit and leave
um you know the basically PD will catch
them if they knock a light pole down or
something like that but let's just hit
in the center water box usually they get
away
a lot of them get away
um so we think that'll be a helpful tool
and that's uh that's added to the
service budget
um
we do have a Jeffrey Park camera
expansion item added to the technology
Capital request
Mike do you know
do you know what that is yeah I believe
that's adding um some security cameras
at our shelter facilities in the Parks
okay
and then the the rec budget we had like
a placeholder a larger 200 000 item that
has been broken out in this so that it's
showing up as different align items so
that includes
um Boardwalk repairs to the park
replacement of a mower truck dugouts and
fencing tennis court Mill and overlay
some natural play area fixtures
uh that's that's the uh the larger item
broken out Park sign is already was
already in there so those are the
changes to the capital budget and I know
we had some questions of different
departments about some of the equipment
so
here we are
ask away just for clarity did they total
budget increase by 44k or was it more
than that it was I'm sorry it was
I think it was it was more than that a
little bit more than that because the
natural play area fixtures is an
addition I think but then we had some
reductions in some other areas
so I'm not sure what the total
yeah look also at the old first snow
yeah Parks Capital went up by about
twenty three thousand
uh service went up by that 484.
and then Tech went up by the camera
okay
the extra camera
um I know one of the questions I had was
around the equipment and
I think it was the spider lift
um and you know when I'm looking at
these types of like Capital purchases
that are new I tend to want to
understand how much we've been spending
to rent in the past
um I know that's you know I always tend
to look of it from a monetary standpoint
so
um
were you able to get or
help us better understand if we you know
been renting similar equipment and this
would
eliminate
those types of costs on some of the
other equipment listed we have rented we
have not rented a spider lift just
because the companies that sell them the
liability standpoints they don't want to
rent them
um that piece of equipment would help us
do some tree work in the park we just
can't get the bucket trucks in a lot of
places where this piece of Machinery is
actually on tracks and we would trailer
it and um it's a lot lighter in our
trucks it won't be causing any kind of
root damage to the trees and just help a
lot of doing a lot of work in the Parks
okay so does that mean that we wouldn't
spend as much on like third party
folks to come in and
maintain the trees I guess I'm just
trying to understand if there's any cost
avoidance or if it truly is
um just new equipment that we need just
it would just be new equipment okay okay
I think there's a safety aspect to it as
well it's
um right now if we're doing any kind of
tree work in the Parks um usually it's
you know the guys are climbing and
that kind of makes me nervous you know
safety of the employees and workers
comps so this will this is a lot safer
option
um and I think I know there were
questions about the front end loader I
know we have rented that before so Andy
if you want to talk about that sure um
last year we demoed one
um
just see how we would like it um if we
were to rent one
um this season it would be five thousand
dollars a month
um the purchase of this would one get
the trucks loaded a lot quicker when
we're shelting
um right now I use back I just load the
trucks for salt and gravel and it it
works but it's not ideal
um you know this would eventually you
know I would get rid of one of our older
backhoes which is a 2008
um
so we would use it in every department
but the biggest time would be the winner
like what was our life expectancy often
for backhoes I mean I don't know if we
can extrapolate from that we're way
overdue
um I mean you know construction
companies you know they they rotate them
in a lot sooner than we do but you know
seven eight years on Tobacco is getting
pretty old okay you just automated parts
and hydraulic I mean
I guess I would ask would you expect
this piece of equipment to last longer
than that or I I think so it's a lot
more heavy duty than the back goes that
we're using right now
uh that was kind of my question is how
long do you expect this to to be good
for but then in terms of five thousand
dollars a month all right is that are
you would you anticipate 12 months of
use at that price okay so roughly what
we're talking in three years either way
okay and then it pays for itself yep
okay thanks
any other questions
yeah
uh Chief Lewis uh the golf cart oahv
um you know a golf cart standard without
anything else is what 10 to 15 000 these
days if you're just getting a basic one
um your plans for the usage of this uh
piece of equipment and also will it be
used to do police work outside of
Engagement with the community as in do
we really need a suit up 35 000 golf
cart or twenty five thousand dollar golf
cart or could we get by with the
Standard 12 000 for what you've
envisioned
so great question
um what I found over the years and
especially in a community like Bexley
currently with the number of golf carts
that we already have existing with the
number of special events with a
community where a high pedestrian
occurrence on Saturdays I can go on and
on and on with just the functionality I
think that we are disengaged with our
community and cruisers are a barrier I
think by engaging in a really a
specialty type vehicle that we can use
and engage this community differently
but still be an enforcement component is
what we need I watched officers as you
know this past summer the different
events we're jumping on the city's
Gators we're using other recreational
vehicles from other departments to
engage I think that we can brand it
Market it and use it all throughout the
year very differently and just think
differently than what we've been doing
as a whole so I think that this would be
a great asset
for us not only from enforcement or from
a special events but just engaging you
know seeing that near our schools
um I can go on and on and on but I think
that we have a chance to really impact
Bexley very differently from a law
enforcement perspective
and so as a follow-up to that uh do you
anticipate this vehicle needs to be
capable of let's say you're at an event
and you see somebody speeding to at a
reckless level of science a sign that
you anticipate hopping onto to then go
chase after this person or is this
strictly going to be for Community
engagement because on one side if it's
to chase after somebody and police work
in that sense as you picture it I see
you need for a more high-speed vehicle
however if it's just to engage with
Community I I mean it doesn't seem like
35 000 is necessary to accomplish that
so just yes sir so the answer is yes
um we this would be a vehicle that would
be used for you could use it for
enforcement purposes
um when you're talking about those types
of speeds the reality is we won't equip
it with a radar detector but you could
use laser and said stationary and then
be able to engage
um so you have that ability it would be
marked that number number is the vehicle
as well as all the markings radio
communication lights so that's the full
package and that's also staying in mind
with the mayor's vision of being
electric and so there's a higher cost as
opposed to a hybrid and so that's where
that additional monies come from thank
you yes sir
we are these um
can we afford to have
um
we're so friendly or are associated
yeah that's a standard
um gasoline mower uh the reason for that
is uh it and Mike if you want to explain
the mulching capacity and how the market
isn't there yet
but yeah on the on the mowers
specifically that we're looking at uh we
we use it for mulching leaves in the
fall in the Parks and at this point they
don't have that capability within the
electric fleets
so we have that in there you know if we
feel like there that there may be an
opportunity we don't necessarily have to
get it right away probably later in the
season next year
um if we feel like that the electric
you know uh capability changes we can we
can maybe adjust to what we're doing
obviously that price would be much more
at least
seems to be much more expensive at this
point for electric mowers because
there's not a lot of options out there
but
um right now electric electric Fleet
doesn't allow for what we need
yeah so the current demonstration
electric mode we have allows us to have
a full electric Fleet and we can like
Havenwood is electric park and get to
know the product and help to
support its use broad more broadly
Beyond just the city but I don't think
just to expand on what makes sane I
don't think the market
is yet there with all the different
options that we would like so I think
we're going to hold off on further
purchasing we hope to see prices come
down we hope to see the features that
increase the seats to be like the
Cadillac comfortable seats that Andy's
guys
expect they're very sensitive so
um so I think that in the future we'll
see more of that those purchases but for
now I think we're going to stay
conventional
foreign
by the way do they they we turn them
over pretty frequently maybe every three
to five years I think we'll trade in two
to three years so it's not like we'll be
able to continue to assess that
just can we dive in a little bit more to
the dugouts and fencing yeah
um I will also say uh we will some of
these items will probably have some
applications in the Community Foundation
as well
um but uh we have a design and pricing
for adding dugouts at Wolf Park which is
really the only the other Parks or the
schools
um
uh about you know adding similar to what
you see at the JCC where you actually
have a cover
um you have a fenced-in area for
um dugouts at the two fields at Wolf
park so that's what we're looking to try
to accomplish to improve that those
facilities a little bit from where
they're at right now and um that would
be one of the ones on on parks list that
will probably also Engage The Community
Foundation on as well and that would
adjust if if we get awarded that
how does that work with the city of
Columbus
yeah we will have to get approval from
the city Columbus to add anything to the
park so
um we are in the process of continuing
to have discussions about our access at
Wolf Park and so that'll be a part of
that we don't you know we're going to be
careful about investing money into a
space making sure we still have the
access that we need to have but
um but yes we'd have to get approval
from Columbus for the design for the
love for the install do you think that's
something we should look at
um engaging St Charles with as well
I don't think that they would get
um benefit from it they're not using
those diamonds at all at this point so I
don't think there would be
a reason for them to want to engage in
that
it's about uh Capital well good morning
the concrete buggy we rent a lot of
concrete buggies are we all year round
at this point or we rented last year or
I'm sorry this year in 22 eight times uh
it's about 125 dollars a day we would
have rented it a lot more we just they
weren't available
um 21 I think we had one 10 to 12 times
um for sidewalk repair well we we use
them for everything uh mulching in the
Parks
um you know sidewalk concrete you know
an easements easement work um just
pretty handy piece of equipment it's
just once you take it back you know then
you go to rent it again they're not
always available do they double as a
police off highway vehicle
um I'm sure we could soup it up and do
something to it yeah
yeah
um I know you did it an analysis of the
essentially the payback period on the
pickup truck
um comparing it to
um combustible engine versus
um Electric
but I guess what I was hoping to see was
holistically the total cost of
essentially purchases on this and the
additional monies were spending to
you know go electric so I know in that
instance I think it's seventeen thousand
dollars or something like that but it's
unclear to me holistically
um what that number is
for electric yeah so like yeah so if but
you know again I I think the Cruisers
might be electric
um Cruisers are hybrid and we did that
study a few years ago they are radically
less expensive for us to operate okay
just because of the way that they
operate during
um
uh idle time and just their fuel
efficiency and the cost of fuel like
they're a small premium and they save I
think within the year or two they pay
themselves back okay um but I guess
ballpark I mean if you look at this
holistically and if we were choosing to
purchase combustible engine versus
electric I mean with the capital budget
be fifty thousand dollars less
I'm making I'm making these numbers so
we have two pickup trucks in this budget
that are electric
um and it would be they're each uh
premium of roughly eighteen thousand
dollars yeah over the normal which the
analysis shows that over the life of the
truck they'll pay themselves back based
upon the data that we have
um but for the front end I think it's
something like eighteen thousand dollar
premium per vehicle and there's two
trucks
um actually I don't wanna
because I am not aware of this I thought
the I thought there was not an electric
option for the OHV for the police
at this point right so that's not that's
priced oh okay yeah okay
two hybrids
we don't there aren't electric Cruisers
yet
yeah my understanding was that yeah we
can we can confirm that my understanding
was these hybrids I would be tickled
pink if they were electric but I don't
think we're there yet and there's more
infrastructure that would have to go
into place for our Cruisers to be
effective and we were just talking today
there's some decisions to make unlike
the service trucks where
overnight you can charge them at a level
two charge police cruisers are often
used three shifts a day it's a totally
different logistical consideration so
that's one where I think we will be
satisfied with hybrids for a while
watching that market mature seeing how
they perform the real world and that
last I heard it was like maybe next year
in production but based on our
experience with the F-150 lightnings
we're not going to count our chickens
until they hatch
so we'll keep we'll keep our eye on it
believe me
and by the time that we have an electric
cruiser we might have an electric street
sweeper for Matt Klingler as well
I mean
when in row I'm gonna jump in and uh
remind you guys so if you're answering
questions please make sure your
microphone is on only because we are
broadcasting out as well and recording
just one more
a question about this the spider lift
how often do the guys climb now
and with that illuminate it totally
it would in the Parks
um right now like any kind of Street
work you know we're always using a
bucket truck but any kind of easement or
works at the park would we use you know
they'd have to climb because we don't
have this piece of equipment so it'd
probably eliminate 90 of the climbing
I I'd say probably 785 yeah okay well
yeah it's funny I just
to make a note then to cancel because
this is very rare that I get to use my
expertise but that may eliminate a
pretty significant workers compensation
claim which on the back end could save
us on premiums in the future so
it seems like in that negative
I mean if somebody Falls Elementary it's
always very significant so it's this
yeah
every river
any further questions on Capital
all right
I don't believe that we have anything
further to present on the budget other
than speaking in an executive session
about an item so I think we're
I think we're done with presentations
um my
hope is that we would uh vote on this at
the next council meeting
um Monique may be back for that meeting
and also I think um we're not ready to
final final final final Final finalize
the budget until we have that executive
session here later this evening
foreign
further questions or comments before we
put the budget back to bed for a little
bit I would also encourage you to spend
the week off time if you have further
questions or you want more information
to go ahead and
ask uh ask for that so that the mayor
has time to prepare that for the next
meeting and we are
primed and ready to to take some action
if we need to because as a reminder if
the budget does not pass next meeting
there will be a meeting the following
Tuesday
that is true I think we're in good shape
thank you for the reminder
some people need an incentive
all right I think we're uh ready for
some sort of action activity I would
like to make a motion to put ordinance
41 22 back on the table I will second
that motion
um I'll get all in favor do we need a
Voice vote all in favor say
all in favor say aye aye
aye I'll post the same sign thank you
thank you Chief thank you Andy thank you
Beecher
thank you Mike oh he's hanging around
maybe no wow I'm happy to but all right
you don't need lab purchase
okay all right so
maybe consent agenda yeah I think so all
right
right so on the consent agenda Mr Mr
attorney
Mr President may I
Mike Price very very warmly reminded me
that we did not discuss school
membership fees which was a discussion
in the last meeting that we were going
to circle back oh okay and it doesn't
have to be a very long presentation I
just want you guys to know we do have an
analysis that's attached to the agenda
oh is there a presentation for it isn't
it on there too I thought it was okay
we're not
do we have a copy of that or did you
okay we'll upload it to the dropbox.com
meeting regarding
Concepts about adjusting pool membership
and kind of what other area of pool
facilities are doing there's a lot of
information on here so I apologize I'll
try to distill it as best I can
um
the front page just gives users some
information about what we're doing from
a revenue side with the pool
historically last couple years 21-22
model number three is modeling out a 50
membership for Resident seventy dollar
membership for non-resident
um
and make some assumptions about
increasing the number of memberships but
obviously applies the reduction in the
costs of memberships and how it impacts
the overall budget the synopsis you see
in Gray
um is the first the model 350 membership
just sort of Compares 2022 Revenue
versus estimated total revenue under 50
membership model which is about twenty
three thousand dollars less
um 20 that would be 23 versus 22. uh the
next section of synopsis talks about
what we would what that would look like
compared to our 2023 uh pool budget as
currently in front of council
um so a net loss of 162 000 uh on the
pool
um which is a you know estimated cost
recovery of about 66 percent
um
to be clear that uh that numbered does
include a fifty thousand dollar Capital
um which is in the budget
um and uh doesn't include the projected
50 000 in unspent Appropriations so uh
I'm trying to just make sure you have
the the information in terms of how we
we're reviewing it you can make an
argument in terms of cost recovery some
places might make an argument in terms
of cost recovery you don't include
Capital items it's more of an
operational side
um you know we obviously don't include
debt services for example
um so that just to give you some idea of
what we're looking at
the next page which is a lot of
information but quick question yeah um
so just what I
what I understand now is that we had we
did memberships
um we we in 2022 we had 222 000 of
memberships correct and then if we
switch to a 50 membership for 2023 what
what are you forecasting the membership
Revenue to be yeah you so
good question it would be the last two
of if you look at on the left side model
number three sort of accounts for all
the different Revenue sources yeah the
last two would be your resident and
non-resident members you'd add those
together so you'd be at about 192
000. okay so we just come down thirty
thousand dollars is that assuming the
same number of memberships as well
or no it's assuming a 20 increase in
number of memberships okay so 20
increase in memberships okay and that's
an additional impact with like
concessions and some other stuff too
yeah so there's some other yeah so that
we also assuming our our daily
admissions would go down we have more
members we have less people buying daily
admissions right so uh we're accounting
for that we're counting some increase in
our um swim lessons as a result of more
members we're more likely to have more
people involved in our swim lessons so
there's a lot of different Revenue
sources within uh the pool
um and so all those a lot of those
things are impacted some of those things
are not our swim team is not they're
pretty much maxed out that's the pass
along expense anyway
um but our session goes up a little bit
um as a result of having more people
attending we expect our concession to go
up and therefore the percentage that we
get would go up as well so we're trying
to account for all those different
things
any other questions on the front page
back page just gives some idea of uh
pricing
um you know it's it's hard to compare
some of it's apples to oranges
um but we did our best to compare like
types of uh membership membership
modules uh within a lot of different
municipalities one thing one of the
takeaways as you look at this that I
would you know suggest is a as we talked
about last meeting we are on the high
end in terms of our membership rates uh
the way it's currently structured and
you'll also see that communities are
sort of all over the place in terms of
how they structure their memberships
um in terms of their costs and on the
last page we'll get to that in a second
but you'll see you know their philosophy
I I can't say that we have a philosophy
for each one of these municipalities but
you'll see the philosophies in terms of
cost recovery are also kind of all over
the place from one municipality to the
next so
um in terms of averages in the bottom
portion of that you'll see
um the average of the of the municipal
is at the top we are again we are the
differences were quite a bit more
expensive than the average uh so the
average for example if you're looking in
the sort of the yellow shaded area of a
family of three residents is 218 dollars
if you follow that across ours is 292.
uh so we're about seventy four dollars
more uh the way we're currently
structured compared to similar
communities or communities in central
Ohio
I'm probably five minutes behind
um so I apologize but help me it appears
we're also looking to decrease the
non-resident memberships
help me understand
why we would why we would do that I mean
my understanding is that we're looking
to deliver a savings back to the
community
um by decreasing it to 50. so it's
unclear to me why we would do the same
for non-community members
it's a great question
um so the the only and we can we can do
whatever model we want on the on the non
non-resident we can change that to 75
which I think would be closer to what it
would turn into on the individual family
packages from an administrative side if
we're going to go to a per person rate
it's a lot easier to have our residents
and our non-residents have the same sort
of structure in terms of a per person as
opposed to saying a family of four is
this and that price comes down on family
of five and so on family of six
um so we can have a I'm open to whether
70 is the right number or 75 is the
right number 80 is the right number
that's the first that's sort of just the
analysis based on you know one option
but that doesn't have to that doesn't
have to be what is we could we could
increase it now again it's not going to
have a significant impact because we
currently limit the number of
non-resident memberships that we can
sell and so you might be only looking at
uh maybe 100 of those
at a five dollar difference but yes we
can we obviously can make adjustments to
that
it was the Genesis of this that uh you
were looking at a comparison to the
other communities or was it were you
hearing from residents that felt like
this was too expensive for them to
afford what was the
initial like and get my first go if you
want but before well I think uh you know
and having a conversation with the mayor
and I think he you know tried to
articulate it back was an opportunity to
provide value back to the community uh
and and reassessing sort of the
philosophy of cost recovery with the
pool and whether we are looking to get
100 cost recovery and therefore passing
along those expenses to everyone or
whether it's more of a somewhat
subsidized model
um and keeping costs down uh benefits of
that is obviously providing more access
for more of the community
um and so I think that's that's a piece
of this
um you know we I can't say this is a
driving Factor we do often have at least
a couple people that will complain to us
about the model in terms of the
structure and hey why is why do I as a
family of three have to pay more per
person than a family of six or as an
individual and this sort of equalizes
that I'm not sure that's not a driving
Factor but that's a you know a byproduct
benefit of this sort of approach coach
but I think it's ultimately about access
and about returning value back to the
residents that I don't know if that's
fair or not America yeah I think that's
fair and I think that um just I've heard
complaints over the years about the
accessibility of the membership to
certain families in the community we
know
the number of scholarships that we have
is much smaller than the number of
families that ostensibly can't afford
the pool so I think like we're losing a
lot of people that would maybe qualify
for scholarship obviously there's some
households that wouldn't really want to
be in that position where they're taking
a handout quote unquote handout
um so I think it's like as as we were
looking at pool we know we're losing
some money like and we know that the
Delta we're talking about right here is
relatively minimal it's like what are
what is is there a structure that would
better serve the community and also be a
little more flexible we've talked
already about some household types where
like yeah you might have a
teenager that you know wants to do it
but not another not another uh person in
your family so I just think the
flexibility uh the the value added to
the community and I think in general
just making sure that we're at a point
we see here the data backs up that we're
an expensive pool
um frankly I see some of the comments
like Upper Arlington saying that they
fully recover their costs at a lower
rate and I don't believe it I think
there's something else going on there
probably so I think that we are a more
expensive rate and I think it's worth us
exploring and I do like that flexibility
that model with the different types of
families and memberships where the
original fees like set and with like
covering the cost of the pool in mind or
then what was the original price
modeling how'd you come about with that
no
before my time-ish are we talking about
in the 60s when the first bill
um uh in 2007 I think the price Model
sort of reflected where we finished off
with the 2007 being the first year of
the new pool
um similar to what it was with the old
pool in 2006.
um I don't think it was driven my
understanding it wasn't necessarily
driven by a philosophy of we've got to
make X number of dollars or coverx costs
I mean I think our goal uh with the new
pool you know the old pool as a you know
as it was finishing up we were obviously
spending a lot more money on upkeep of
that than we were bringing in
um and so building a new structure
created a completely different dynamic
in terms of the finances uh we I think
we fully expected based on industry
standards that with a new pool you would
see a much better cost recovery in the
first handful of years and then it would
slowly go down as the novelty of it
wears off as the cost of maintaining
equipment and supplies increases
um but I I don't think that that the
number that was originally set was was
based on a specific philosophy about
recovery it was more of a historical
Passover or whatever yeah and and from a
history standpoint I think the first
handful of years four or five years we
were plus 60 000 somewhere in that
neighborhood on net
um and every year since you know since
the last
probably 10 years we've seen that number
go down and continue to go down to where
we were basically we've been breaking
even we've been roughly shooting to
break even outside of not including
Capital costs out you know for the last
four or five years we're dead yes we're
dead which we would have never
broke even with that included
um but from an operational standpoint
less handful years we're covering our
costs and I would expect you know
obviously covet had an impact on that
and
um and as we've discussed the increased
the significant increase in operational
costs associated with increased pay for
staff
um is going to was going to impact this
number regardless of what we do with
this whether we kept it the same way or
not cost recovery at 100 would be very
difficult with staff making 15 an hour
versus what they were making say three
years ago at nine dollars an hour
um so that was a you know something that
was going to happen regardless of this
decision
where I am
I was just going to say that I I applaud
Mike and and Ford and um the workboard
and and the administration almost
um
Mr Mayor for thinking of ways
to make things like the pool more
inclusive
um ironic to the conversation we had at
lunch well as a child as a child the
pool was one of my favorite places to be
and
um I know my kids wanted to be there and
as a person who makes every effort in my
spare time to plan events for this city
that is our events that build community
I think simply the individuals who go to
the pool are indeed building community
in Bexley and I think that making sure
that representatives of
all different parts of our community
um being you know able to have access to
that it's really important and I also
want to always remember that our rec
department is a service
it's a service and it's important that
we remember that
the only other thing I have to say just
looking at the savings so I I think
when I'm looking at the way the cost
structure works
it appears to me that for families of
five and six
um
there would only be we'll say 50 to 18
savings from an early bird
the bulk of the benefit would be
delivered to smaller families and
individuals so would just be curious if
we just put a cap on it and said no
essentially costs won't exceed two
hundred dollars for a family regardless
of size
um so I don't know what that means to
your modeling but
um
it just to me just would want to deliver
say if if there is a decision to deliver
savings to the community I would
consider
um you know but just putting a cap on it
all at a family of four perhaps
yeah that yeah that's definitely
something we could consider you know I
don't have the numbers in front of me we
obviously don't do a lot of family of
sticks memberships or a family of fives
that's a smaller percentage of ours so
probably have less of an impact
obviously on the overall so either way
the only uh the only issue I the only
logistical issue I'd have to work
through is just how we structure that
the mechanics of the purchase of them
savings and just want to make sure that
that you know as we get through it yeah
we'd be open to just putting a cap on
yeah and if we put a cap on it we might
see a lot more family of six purchases
yeah
maybe
all of a sudden mysterious extra fan in
our original challenge
the only other the only other thing I
would point out is again we try to get
some ideas on some of the other
communities and what their philosophy is
on cost recovery but but Pickerington is
one that I think I think is that stands
out um in which they talked about
in which they talk about specifically
about the uh increase in wages in the
impact that that's having on how they're
reimagining expectations on cost
recovery so I mean I think everyone is
this is the right time for us to be
having this conversation because
everyone is sort of re-evaluating what
their expectations are understanding
that those costs are going up at a rate
far far higher than sort of normal
inflationary costs
um and and thinking differently about
passing that on versus subsidizing at
some extent makes sense at this point in
time
I think Dublin's also stands out
in true Dublin fashion of course they
have a
very concrete program for this
um so in terms of like just process the
correct board has approved this concept
as an alternate to just standard uh rate
increases
um the budget currently accommodates
this concept this model so it would
really be at this point in time it would
be up to Mike's Administration to
determine the final outcome we wanted to
socialize it with you guys to make sure
that there wasn't
severe objection or objection in general
that you guys were comfortable with the
idea we do feel like going down this
route
everything is always reversible it's
just something that would be a little
harder to reverse out of once people
become accustomed to this model it's
much more straightforward
it's a little bit more budget friendly
for especially as you said you know
larger families so
um
I guess action would simply be uh
if you don't like this idea speak up if
there's strenuous objection it really
feels like that's something that could
be made of you know something we can
talk about as a budget issue in general
and here's someone speaking up yeah
um and I've mentioned this before but I
would love to see if we're kind of
anticipating the 20 increase in members
um attending the pool I'd like to see
that we increase our chair capacity
so I'm in favor of this but I really do
want to make sure
um that we do that that becomes a part
of
and we have in our Capital additional
chairs they're generally to replace old
chairs but we can look at keeping those
maybe another year and sort of rotating
at a different
different timeline so we can add chairs
also preview of tomorrow's record
meeting
I am going to be pitching an idea
of changing instead of having a
basketball court down there the low
going to the pool having a sand
volleyball court so you can put some
chairs around that as well
so uh something to think about love it
yeah
you got that sand sand pickleball
next door on a windy day
your greetings
there you go naming rights yeah
all right do you uh you getting the vibe
that you need or you want me to point at
people or I feel like we're in good
shape uh obviously reached out to Mike
or myself if you have any further
thoughts about it all right thank you
no you already had that you already put
it back on the tables because this
wasn't technical yeah that's what I
thought this was this is us one hour and
49 minutes into the meeting consent
agenda do we still do consent agenda we
still do consent agenda all right the
meeting minutes from November 15 2022
city council meeting any uh comments or
questions on the consent agenda
all right I will take a motion to adopt
the consent agenda
a motion to adopt by Ms fiebel can I get
a second second by Ms Robinson uh Mr
Mike Peak will you uh take the votes
Miss Robinson yes Ms fiebel yes Miss
lamke Mr Klingler yes Mr Marcelino yes
Mr Markham yes Mossad yes and consent
agenda passes
all right we are on to third readings
third reading wardens 43-22 to establish
the water sewer and refuse rates charged
by the city of Bexley introduced by Ms
lamke I guess that's Ms fiebel tonight
yeah because I love to talk about water
and sewer and refuse
um so uh do we have the rates up there
and we really
don't have a whole lot of choice and
also this there's a
proposal
the proposed amendment
excuse me is up on the screen
and it's it is the this we surpassed
through the increase that Columbus is uh
assessing
um I do want to share an analysis with
you all that uh Matt had asked for
um which essentially Compares our water
rates against other communities and in
doing so we found that um
actually it was it's been a bit since
I've done that exercise I was pleasantly
surprised
um our water
our water sewer rates
of course I have it on the wrong laptop
right now one second
our water sewer rates are are actually
lower than a lot of other communities
despite what we hear about
from time to time
in on the online forums and such
so let me pull that up right now
everybody's reading this one
uh
so um all right this is so we profiled
what it would cost for a 1000 CCF bill
but for a quarter and you can see that
um
we are pretty much in the middle of the
pack for most communities in central
Ohio
were lower than many of them we are
higher as everybody else than
Westerville Westerville runs its own
water utility
so it doesn't have to deal with some of
the larger systemic issues that Columbus
does and then Columbus passes on of
course their larger systemic issues to
us as a master metered community
there's two categories here that you see
Master metered and net metered bexley's
Master Meter what that means is we buy
we buy all the water from Columbus at a
at the Master Meter huge meters to come
into the city we pay for all of it then
we figure out who's using what and we
build them separately and that metered
Community is Columbus takes over all the
billing for those communities they also
take care of General repairs and
maintenance they do not do Capital
repairs so if you see um
you've probably been around town and
you've seen like there's a water break
here it's going to be fixed in two weeks
right that's that's of Columbus repair
mechanism
um there are suburbs as you can see that
have that uh we have a higher level of
service pretty substantially higher and
it's um you know and yet also our I
think cost competitive which is good to
see
so having said all that this amended
ordinance uh gets rid of the refuse uh
piece of it because it's actually our
refuse rate was codified last year for
the next five years so that that has
already happened
um
it uh
escaped we were using it earlier I was
using an earlier draft of last year's
ordinance so I had not realized that
that had happened until I got the new
one out so I think you should also
strike the second the third and fourth
whereas is because they refer to refuse
you
mic drop
so any any questions about
proposed ordinance
43-22 because this is a third reading
right it is
any comments or questions from Council
any from the audience
oh we do need emotion well I still ask
for comments or questions normally
now
what you gonna do I am going to
um make a motion to
to uh amend ordinance 43 22.
have a motion to amend by Ms fiebel
second I have a second by Mr Klingler
any comments or questions on the
amendment from Council
comments or questions from the audience
Mr McPeak
Miss fiebel yes Miss Robinson yes Miss
lamke Mr Marcelino yes Mr Markham yes
Miss sod yes Mr Klingler yes Amendment
passes thank you Ms fiebel I would like
to make a motion to pass amended
ordinance 43-22 motion to adopt by ms5
second by uh Ms Saad any comments or
questions from Council
comments or questions from the audience
Mr McPeak Mr Marcelino yes Miss feibel
yes Miss Robinson yes Miss thud yes Miss
Lampe Mr Markham yes Mr Klingler yes
amended ordinance passes thank you
all right so now we're on to the third
reading of ordinance 45-22 to establish
the salary for the office of Bexley
Mayer for the years 2024 through 2027
from introduced by Ms lamke so Ms Bible
yes I think that we've we've looked at
this we've talked about this we have
some amendments that we have to
um
we have to vote on
it was okay
all right
so proposed amended ordinance Okay so
we've passed the Amendments and so I
guess we just any discussion on it
questions or comments on the amended
ordinance in front of us right now
uh well that's what that people are
getting the proposed above through me
that's why because we're getting the nod
from Natalie yeah that's true instant
replay confirms yeah uh any comments or
questions
comments or questions from the audience
I do have some action on it yes um I
would like to make a motion to pass
amended coordinates 45 22. motion to
adopt by In This Bible second second by
Mr Klingler any
um comments or questions from Council
comments or questions from the audience
a ceramic Peak
Mr Markham yes Miss Robinson yes Mr
Klingler yes Miss sod yes Mr Marcelino
yes Miss lamke and Miss feibel yes
ordinance passes thank you
okay we are now on to a third reading of
ordinance 4622
to create chapter 220.04 compensation
and to establish the salary for the
office of city council member for the
years 2024 and Beyond introduced by Ms
lamke Ms Bible
um yes thank you so much
um
um mayor Custer could you pop that on to
the screen please
if if you all look at um the sentence
right here with the help of the City
attorney we
um we changed it to
make it so that we have to look at it
again
um within the next few years so that
it's not kind of to alleviate the
discomfort in doing this
um even though we are setting a setting
a compensation for individuals who may
or may not be on Council it's still for
whatever reason seems uncomfortable to
do that and I just I just wanted to make
it something that we
asked to look at and so with that
sentence and then I think that
um can't remember who then said that we
needed to just get rid of 30 and the 30
and 32. so that's what you're not seeing
thank you Sam you're not seeing the the
things you know xed out but that is
um
that those were the changes the
Amendments that were made
so
yeah any questions on those did you do
you have anything to say about that just
to note I don't I mean that's pretty far
out uh we also when we were looking at
the numbers I don't believe that we had
information in regards to when those
increases occurred in other communities
I think we're still on the average to
low side of of uh Central Ohio at least
and so I think this allows Council an
opportunity to reevaluate
um rather than setting it out for what I
believe we initially had is about a
decade
um and a lot can happen A decade is I'm
sure we're all clear so
um that was the rationale that's a good
point and then as you say what we're
doing here is tonight we're setting the
uh Council salaries for future Council
and then we're directing future Council
then to revisit that to set and review
those salaries for councils that would
be after them as well so we're kind of
removing sort of that like should we do
this do we need to sort of thing and
just saying do a regular assessment of
this salaries and then consider what
your predecessors what what would be
reasonable I think right
right
any um any other questions or comments
do you have some action we need to amend
yes we do thank you um so I would like
to make a motion
um to approve um uh to approve the
amendments
for ordinance 46 22. motion to amend by
Ms feibel second second by Mr Marcelino
comments or questions from Council
comments or questions from the audience
Mr mcpeek Ms fiebel yes Mr Markham yes
Miss lampke Nissan yes Miss Robinson yes
Mr Marcelino yes Mr Klingler yes uh
Amendment passes thank you it's feiwell
I'd like to make a motion to approve
amended ordinance 46 22 please motion to
approve the amended ordinance by Ms
fiebel second second by Ms Robinson any
comment or question from Council
comment or questions from the audience
Mr mcpeek Mr Klingler yes masad yes
slamke Miss feibel yes Mr Markham yes
Miss Robinson yes and Mr Marceline now
yes Amendment ordinance passes thank you
all right now we're up to third reading
coordinates 47-22 to establish
compensation for non-bargaining unit
employees of the city of Bexley
effective as of 1 123 Ms lamkey slash MS
feibo
I'm really excited about this ordinance
I and and I I applaud the mayor for you
know making sure that the individuals
who help
in the background to make our city such
a special place to live in
um our compensated appropriately I know
it takes a lot of effort to look into
these
um pay and I and I I know that it takes
a it takes a deep dive to investigate
what other
communities are paying and certainly we
want to be a community that is
competitive
in that we you know we we pay our
employees appropriately so
um Mr Mayor I want to go ahead and let
you take over from here if you would
yeah so um we are going to be further
discussing this in executive session so
I would uh suggest that it be tabled
um don't anticipate asking for a vote at
this meeting
wonderful
um is there any conversation that
individuals want to have
now with this okay
then I if I may Mr President
um I'd like to make a motion to
um a table
um ordinance uh 47-22 please motion to
table my men's bible second second by Mr
Klingler all in favor say aye
aye all oppose same sign
all right we now we're on to Second
readings the second reading of
resolution 10-22 to schedule the back
city city council meeting dates and
times for the year 2023 introduced by Mr
Markham yeah I see Sam's Oregon's hand
up very soon uh last time I think we
discussed that November 7 2023 and I
didn't see that change so I just want to
make sure that makes it and also I
looked at another date that's on there
and this just depends how you guys feel
but Valentine's Day February 14th if we
have the ability I don't know if anybody
cares but I could see we all spend a lot
of time away from our loved ones oh and
perhaps we consider moving it through
another night it's that's my take on it
but if you guys have issue with it
Hallmark
I love you guys but I don't want to be
here with you
[Laughter]
we have control now
um do we want to uh entertain the idea
of I'm sorry you're speaking there mayor
oh
is this a Sweetest Day
Valentine's Day you're right you're
right Jonathan's birthday should we
change 10 10 can I can I not
do we want to uh move that to February
7th then
um that actually still gives us two
weeks yeah it does between the 24th
and then do we want to make February
28th do we want to move that up so that
we don't have three weeks in between
does that because then we'd have
four please
so as is let's just leave it as this
looks good
the
you know make sure that we're thinking
of um MLK and President's Day I can't
remember what weekends those fall on on
2023.
yeah and so on November we want to make
that seventh into the 14th
I'll be here on the 14th because I have
three break and then the second meeting
is going to have to be the
um 28th we'll be here on the 14th
correct am I right about that that's
smart it could be the 21st that's that's
going to be Tuesday Thanksgiving
November December uh
no may I
um
just as an FYI March 14th um is Saint
Charles's uh spring break which one what
is it back to everyone else in the room
and I'm more comfortable
you know it doesn't affect anybody else
in the room and I am comfortable saying
I'm going to be with my family that week
so well you know what we we would have
the option again of moving that February
28th to the 21st and then making March
14th March 7th which keeps everything
spaced out then and then avoids both of
those
does that sound all right sure keeping
track you're keeping up with all this
yeah what I didn't
sorry I didn't catch the November 7th
logic we haven't decided that's all
right we're still yeah with that though
I didn't
there's no first well there's a first
but not on a Tuesday
yeah so Wednesday sorry
November
November 0.
so it would have to be November 14th I
but I I agree I think oh it's election
day I think it's we don't want to have
election day yeah that is not so really
the bottom line is you're going to have
to either look at the 14th and the 21st
or the 14th and the 28th but as someone
just pointed out that's Matt pointed out
that's three one-week breaks between
meetings when you're working on the
budget can can you change it can we
change it to a Monday that month is that
not cool what I don't think the charter
says the day
I think it just says twice yes the
answer is yes it can be changed it can
be changed
what I would suggest is changing the
seventh to the eighth if you're going to
do anything but otherwise you're getting
into the week of otherwise you're
getting into the week of Thanksgiving
Natalie's giving you the
all right but now you're getting back to
the one week in less than a week now
Monday the sixth right sorry well people
be running yes that's a problem you're
right
you just gave yourself a raise you can't
meet I understand
um are we confirming you yet are we
doing we've done that
I mean we've do we
don't don't shoot me but like the the
week of Thanksgiving the Tuesday is that
really yeah okay okay what about the
Monday that week nope okay oh I wasn't
sick no
no I'll make some turkey why are we
saying no to the 14th and the 28th
because the 28th would make three weeks
meeting three weeks in a row of meetings
28th the fifth to 12th and then oh I
wasn't looking to December let's go back
to what's wrong with the eighth to be
fair the 12th the Wednesday
what's wrong with the night
so let me just throw this out here
is it yeah and and I don't want anybody
to scream at me either but is it
possible we could do November 28th and
then
we could
tentatively not schedule a December 12th
meeting
or I mean in general that second meeting
in December is pretty quiet I mean right
yeah as needed
I mean I would preferably do the 28th
the fifth and the 12th and have the
possibility of some flexibility there
yeah
I think so too all right any objections
to that no it's as opposed to moving it
around and getting kind of weird with it
and and we don't want to be here on
Election night we don't want to hear the
night before election night I think and
Etc
oops
and I like having a few weeks between
budget I mean yeah it's pretty good
124th and the 14th it's good all right
so as is uh looking good
can someone someone check that we're
okay on August we're okay on August in
terms of for stages of school and
nonsense like that right
sure those are things I've lost track of
a little bit because eight and then
September with the Jewish holidays and
Labor Day
that all looks right right
okay
um
we don't need to make an amendment do we
because this is an attachment okay well
no you do need to make an amendment you
don't need to make it tonight because
it's a second reading okay if you want
to you can but you can also wait and see
okay even though it's an attachment the
exhibited
you're right if you're right I'm sorry
because it says as attached yeah yeah
you're right it doesn't have to I'm
sorry okay yeah yeah you're right good
I'm wrong again it's okay I know well I
feel terrible about 10 push-ups for you
all right
first reading of resolution 1122
confirming oh wait I would actually like
to not read that and I I I've thought
about it somewhere I have one I had had
a lot of interest in the CISD positions
which is fantastic I have one more
person to talk to I would like to have
that conversation before introducing
this and give it's and I thought about
it it won't make a difference if we pass
it the first meeting in January versus
the second in terms of the cic
functionality so if that's okay
yes all right and I have removed it from
the agenda so it's not okay good out
there in the world right now perfect
tabled ordinances we have uh action on
one of those I believe
oh yeah 14 I'm assuming I'm looking for
a 14 22. oh you do
okay
oh she did okay
then we have no action on
table ordinance
oh she has another question about it no
she
rattled you
here
oh it's winter
except for those those median lights
that run on solar power
yeah that's your prerogative yep yep
service environmental chair
committee report
[Laughter]
s
of wrapping paper per year which is
almost enough for us
I've got some exciting ideas wait you
don't have to wrap my present guys you
can just scan it to me perfect
I saved my ribbons every year
you can stack for them so consider that
um consider being creative wrap
something in his work
right
um uh toddler loved ones make a list
every year we all spend so much time
it got to us now we're sending it back
and take it back and work and whenever I
want to stick to my girls
[Music]
no but anyway
it's a much better idea
um
[Music]
Christmas tree
who knew
and of course on contact ideas
what
industry
petroleum-based relaxed contributes
just like if you don't have to drive a
car to get your destination
don't use regular candles
for the holidays if there are more ideas
that you would like I know that um
most likely has that on but uh
Nevada and happy holidays wow that 228
000 miles I bet you I used three times
that just to take
I'd like to just recognize my dad for my
whole life only ever wrapping anything
in old newspapers so he was ahead of his
time
iron
graphic paper and music
that's funny
yeah
I'm just a I'm just a bad rapper I'm
just doing a terrible job
all right any more questions about the
uh
are you doing uh uh finance committee
report too
okay uh let's go to safety
no report will be safe and zoning
nothing to report and Recreation
looking forward to seeing everyone on
Saturday the pancake breakfast first
time back since 2019. the kids the
community all the choirs are gonna be
there
um so it's gonna be packed
um to get there early get your space and
uh be great to celebrate also wanted to
um just speak up real quick on say
Alvin's Turkey Trot which was the first
time it was back live
um it was a huge success thanks to the
city for moving things out of the way so
everybody could be safe at the start a
lot of people were out there this year
and
um that the proceeds always go back to
the Mid-Ohio food bank which is in need
more now than ever I hope we will be
having them in like we usually do
yes do you typically reach out to us you
have it okay end of report looks like
you have a question
general question for those of us that
were struggling to get to our in-laws
house and forgot that the Turkey Trail
was taking place where you exit that
Turkey Trot if you're trying to get to
broader to I couldn't get out so yeah no
yeah in my vehicle we're trying to get
out and we tried to go up to Maine that
was blocked go to Roosevelt that was
blocked eventually we circled back to
Cassidy and I think it was coming to an
end but that was
20 minutes or something like that and
cars backing up reversing I think
perhaps next year if we could just ask
because I'm sure it went out in the buzz
and I'm sure and I'm sure I missed it
but
um maybe a little bit more signage or
direction as to where you can exit to
get to one of the main arteries because
well I appreciate the interest and the
and the 5K is great I was glad to see it
but
when you're running late for the in-laws
you gotta
it's a challenge every time we have a
have a run or a walk
we we require the
um the people who manage and and run the
run to notify residents along the Route
but I think what's challenging sometimes
is if you're not actually on the route
you might not be aware of what's going
on so while running it a few people were
bringing that up as we were running and
I was catching up with uh different
people on the run and a lot of people
the feedback was that since we haven't
had it for two years and it's been
virtual we kind of got acclimented to
how that looks on Thanksgiving Day and
then it was gone and so we got
reacclimated I did see cars that were
very confused where I hadn't really seen
that in the past running it so I think
you bring up a valid point and I think
some of it is just having it back yeah
and uh it was gone for two years ago
all right
Mr Marcelino calling for the abolishment
of the turkey tribe wow
I will be the branch of Thanksgiving
Jess just told by your family entry into
next one next year's run so that you'll
be part of it you won't experience
it's going to be a pass but I wish you
well
yeah your JV Jersey
foreign
strategic Ms Robinson well for those of
you who are strategically planning every
moment free moment of your December
calendar I'm going to shamelessly plug
three of our
um actually Bexley high school students
who are involved in a show at Short
North stage please go see white
Christmas it's phenomenal you may see
some kids that you know on the stage and
another that you know who's working
behind the stage so it's a great show
happy holidays everyone and if you
didn't see it I didn't my wife told me
somebody Council member's daughter got
an unbelievable review in that in the
dispatch on that show she steals her
scenes hmm
um
yes please
uh no public comments I'm assuming uh
unless there are public comments yes
um yeah we'll uh
can we sneak him in
yeah
how about um
can we take a two or three minute recess
right now
two or three minute recess
yeah I just want to make sure
yeah give us a minute here
one more thing thing left to do
it again all right here we are back from
break
uh and
um
probably still need to wait for Jess
don't I for executive session vote
to move into executive session to
consider the appointment employment
dismissal discipline promotion demotion
or compensation of a Public Employee or
official or the investigation of charges
or complaints against a Public Employee
official licensee or right regulated
individual unless the employee official
licensee or regulated individual
requests a public hearing by division G1
of section one two one point two two of
the revised code can I get a second
second by Mr Klingler and we need a
Voice vote for this Mr mcpeek oh
Miss sod
yes this viable yes Mr Markham yes Mr
Klingler Mr soleno yes and Miss Robinson
yes all right moving into executive
session future record
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sorry
is your mic on are we ready
all in favor say aye aye